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Air Forces has announced that applying

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disc has been found and is now in the

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possession of the army

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game is rigged change the game game

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changer Ginger I occasionally think how

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quickly our differences worldwide would

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vanish if we were facing an alien threat

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this is Fade to Black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer Radio

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all right good evening Fade to Black

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American today is Thursday March 2nd

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2023 and tonight

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the beard of knowledge Randall Carlson

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is with us and uh I'm gonna steal

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something I'm gonna see I'm gonna I'm

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gonna see if tonight I can handle the

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Randall I've been drinking coffee all

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day I've got to be on my a game Randall

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Carlson is with us and tonight's an

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exclusive evening and we are going to be

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discussing our secret history and just

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that kind of statement that's that's

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bold it's wide it's cinematic it's a

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huge subject and there's a lot to

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discuss tonight with Randall very

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excited about this he's a master builder

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he's an architectural designer he's a

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teacher

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um and this is the thing uh with Randall

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and I I say this every time he's on the

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show and every time that I talk about

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him

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uh I just want to learn that's all I

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want to do and Randall

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will teach you something I've had lots

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of long conversations oh oh oh oh oh oh

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I'm gonna throw Randall under the bus

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um I taught Randall something about six

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months ago we're on the phone and we're

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talking rocks

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and I said hey you know when I bring him

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on we're going to talk about this I said

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have you ever heard and he said no tell

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me about it we ended up uh staying on

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the phone for about three hours

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and I'm gonna do this right now I'm

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gonna say Randall welcome to the show

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and do you remember that three hour

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conversation about giant rock in

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California oh yes yeah I gotta confess I

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haven't made it out there yet but when I

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do y'all be calling you because I'm

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expecting you to act as my host and

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you know what an honor that's going to

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and can you uh when um we've got so much

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to discuss tonight Randall I want to

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jump straight into it but you know rocks

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and when you saw that picture of giant

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rock you know 10 stories tall it's the

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biggest you know freestanding rock in

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the world but it's pink Granite you know

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what for you what went through your mind

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to see a chunk of pink Granite that big

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how the hell it got there

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okay think I've got a pretty good handle

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I mean I'm looking for the more prosaic

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explanation first before I go to Exotic

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explanations that's the one rule of

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science right go for the simplest thing

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the most straightforward and if that

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um esoteric sounding explanations for

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things but there was a there's a

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mountain there of composed of very

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similar pink granite so somehow you had

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huge Rock from that Mountainside and

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transport it to the floor of the valley

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so in my mind what I was seeing there

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catastrophic event

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because Normal things are not going to

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transport rocks everyday processes and

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of that magnitude so I'm thinking some

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history of this planet we live on and uh

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geological establishment I think is

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planet we have to understand that there

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are periodic catastrophes that can shake

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things up knowing that that's kind of

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where I would gravitate to Jimmy

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the uh amount after I talked to you

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about it and I was standing at a giant

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rock and and checking it out and

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thinking of the amount of water right

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that that would have to displace a rock

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of that size now there's there's rocks

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around that I guess a little bit but

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thinking about the amount of water that

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must have pushed that you know over it

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came from somewhere else right and then

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mile an hour gushing water what would

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primary force was gravity but now there

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excuse me from all over Southern

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desert including uh the desert floor

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some of that I could show some slides

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that show exactly what I'm talking about

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Jimmy would be that like so many of

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these catastrophes when they happen you

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have multiple things sub catastrophes

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that could dislodge rocks they're now

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tumbled to the valley floor and you now

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transport capacity of flowing water

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viscosity so that you could have Pure

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sediment and mud and things like that

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fluid flows so and of course if you've

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erosive Channel it will clear out the

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happening faster than that because again

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function of the gradient so a shallow

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so you got to look at all of these

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things Jimmy it's not as simple as you

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might think yeah it it it never is right

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it never is and the uh some of your uh

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actually can I can I get to the breaking

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news I want your opinion on this yeah

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and then we'll swing it back we're going

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to be talking rocks all night long so

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we'll we'll come back to that but uh

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today uh next to the Great Pyramid there

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and they announced and this is like big

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news because this never happens uh they

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announced uh Corridor a second Corridor

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um has been found inside of the Great

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Pyramid I am going to pull this image up

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um this is now I'm I'm guessing here if

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we think about the construction of the

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Great Pyramid that uh the cantilever the

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the the the the ceiling here the angled

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ceiling is probably pink Granite like

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they did in the king's chamber right the

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relieving Chambers above that uh the

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rest of this is probably Limestone but

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tall in the middle of the uh what would

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um and this wasn't supposed to exist now

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Great Pyramid that that has been

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discovered in the last four years

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um this sits right behind that gabled

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entrance that has been exposed on the

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outside of the Great Pyramid it's not

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the main main entrance to it but the the

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Persians you know uh blasted that away

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uh many hundreds of years ago and

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exposed that section that's where this

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um what do you what do you make of this

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and and do you think that there's other

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stuff inside of the Great Pyramid that's

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yet to be discovered well sure I mean

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likelihood of that possibility uh that

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there are still I mean my instincts tell

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me there's a lot to be discovered yet

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um and so it's not just shocking or

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surprising to me what I'm looking at

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here now and wondering is

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was this accessible from the outside

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yeah no it is so when you look at the

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what's that this is the endoscopic

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camera that's

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put in there so nobody actually accessed

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the outside of the pyramid what they

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have shown is you know with like a red

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arrow where this is approximately with

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that in the heights of the Great Pyramid

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so it's about a third of the way up the

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could they ever have been connected I I

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you know that's a great question and

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this is the other comment that they made

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today uh Randall that they think that

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this is a corridor leading to another

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chamber and they suspect that yeah down

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at the end of that hallway right there

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is the entrance to something for them to

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say that I think they know more than

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what they're trying than what they're

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telling us right now well now you've got

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my curiosity aroused so there could be a

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door at that other end and something

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um yeah right interesting yeah something

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being

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what exactly and the other the other

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chamber that they found uh and I'm sure

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you remember was back in 2017 2018 above

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the grand gallery and that one's 90 feet

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long right 15 feet tall 15 feet wide and

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it's the same angle as the grand Gallery

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it's ginormous and it sits above it and

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nobody knows anything about that yet

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they haven't gotten into it

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well I will be waiting with baited

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breath

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but for more disclosure it's forthcoming

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um can I ask you uh now I'm going to ask

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you a strange question

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um I've never talked to you about this

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um you know Atlantis that a word is

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something that uh you've discussed in

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the past and in ancient civilizations

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and we'll we'll get there eventually

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tonight but

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what about aliens do you ever consider

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an ET off Planet

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uh influence on on us in the distant

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I'm certainly not gonna categorically

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reject the possibility in the distant

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past I have certain questions about

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whether or not it is currently happening

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on the the level that some people

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believe it is

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um

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you know I've looked into a lot of the

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doctrines that seem to suggest that

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there was some kind of an

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extraterrestrial contact and certainly

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you know when we look at mythology we

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can see

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um a number of of layers to it that I

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think and one you know looking at it say

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from the geological lenders you didn't

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mention in the in the bio leading up to

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that but one of the things I study is

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Geo mythology which is actually now a

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legitimate scientific discipline looking

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at

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and the myths and the Legends and the

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tales and so forth to try to tease out

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valid scientific geological and or

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astronomical or other kinds of uh

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scientific information right so having

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immersed myself into the geological and

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the catastrophist component of it I I

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now you know I take not only

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symbolically but literally both you have

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to look at them both ways when you start

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looking at these stories of great

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catastrophes whether it's gigantic

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floods which is probably the most

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prevalent Universal tradition in ancient

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cultures held in common this idea that

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their ancestors had survived some

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tremendous watery cataclysm that wiped

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out most of the human race now

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the the standard

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explanation for that is that these are

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exaggerated memories of regional events

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which doesn't really place it outside of

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things that we may have experienced in

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our own modern times in terms of very

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large floods if we go and let me let's

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set up a yardstick here if we go back

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20th century in America

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two of the largest volume floods

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measured were both on the Mississippi

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River and they peaked out at just over a

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million cubic feet per second largest

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documented floods in the Mississippi

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last one was 1993 at the time it was the

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most expensive natural disaster in

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American history that summer of 93 when

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the Mississippi flooded its banks and I

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think it got up to just a peak for a day

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or a couple of days maybe about 1.2

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million cubic feet per second

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so we now know that in the history of

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this planet and actually very recently

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in the history of this planet there have

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been floods

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approaching a billion cubic feet per

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second

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so if you think a million cubic feet per

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second a billion cubic feet per second

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we're talking literally Peak discharges

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of floods that were a thousand times

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greater

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than the Mississippi flood of 1993. now

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try to imagine

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you know that was economically and it

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was devastating to to the infrastructure

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along there the tributaries of the

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Mississippi of course the rivers and

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creeks flowing in when you have that

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greater volume coming down the main

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trunk Valley it's going to back flood

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into the tributaries and it's going to

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be erosive it's going to be depositional

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it'll sweep things away it'll deposit

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you know thick layers of mud and Berry

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stuff now

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if we're talking about a billion cubic

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feet per second try to imagine what

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would be the cultural implications or

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the implications to any infrastructure

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in the mid United States if you had that

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flow coming down to Mississippi but it

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was a thousand times greater than the

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greatest measured historical cataclysmic

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flood

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yeah you see now you can start getting

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your head wrapped around uh uh you know

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the the scale of these kinds of events

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so

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what I'm getting at you and here's the

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point I'm actually getting to is that

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I think we can safely say now that

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behind the floods

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of of myth these gigantic World

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destroying floods there are real floods

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of an unimaginably cataclysmic scale

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that have are now well documented to

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have occurred in the history of this

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planet Okay so

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what I'm saying there okay we take one

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dimension of our ancient myths the the

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the the the

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cultural stories that have come down to

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us and we can go clearly we can

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demonstrate that behind this there is a

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literal actually scientifically

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verifiable phenomena that happened

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now given that

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what are some of the other elements of

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the ancient stories well this brings us

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back to your question because just as

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ubiquitous as the idea of these

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cataclysmic floods occurring

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there was the uh interaction of humans

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with the gods right

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so now let's let's imagine that okay

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Behind These tales and stories and myths

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and scriptures and things there's this

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real real events that have inspired

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those

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what would in the other example that I

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use is oftentimes Wars of the Gods I

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mean like look at the myth of fate and

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Plato tells us right at the beginning of

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Timaeus that the myth of Satan even

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though it has the appearance of myth

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it's not talking it's not mythical it's

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something that actually happened

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something descended from the sky and set

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the world on fire and even ancient

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um I think origin is one there's others

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that have looked at that and definitely

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concluded that the myth of Satan

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literally refers to the close encounter

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between Earth and a disintegrating Comet

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and that makes perfect sense and the

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description the details and so forth

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that are just in that myth alone along

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with a lot of the other myths that are

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similar really do seem to point to the

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fact that there was Cosmic phenomena

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encounters with asteroids and or comets

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that kind of thing and we know from the

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younger driest now at uh 12 850 to 12

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900 years ago from those studies we find

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not only the soot and proxies of great

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impacts the nanodiamonds the

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microspherols in the in the layers of

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soot which seems to indicate burning

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biomass and in most cases that seems to

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immediately precede

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the flood deposits that are also

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associated with the younger driest

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so it clearly seems to suggest the

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encounter between Earth and some kind of

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a bolide being a generic term for

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an entity from space striking the Earth

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or coming so close to it that it could

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cause effects so we've got two examples

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there now where we can turn to ancient

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myths and behind the outer form of those

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myths it appears that there is literal

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scientific verifiable natural phenomena

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that has occurred

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the third that we find ubiquitous

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embedded in the midst like I just

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referenced is this idea of the Gods and

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clearly in some cases I think the gods

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are referring to you know if you have a

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piece of a common nucleus spalling off

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coming into Earth's atmosphere it is

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going to be one hell of an impressive

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light show it's going to really impress

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and blow the minds of anybody that could

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witness it that is not wiped out in the

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process right one could conflate that

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with saying well here's Here's the the

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the the manifestation of the god and and

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I think that is one of the ways that

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these myths and stories have come down

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to us is that these natural phenomena

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which are cosmic in origin of such a

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scale that people we see this with the

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1908 event in in um Siberia the famous

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tunguska event that was interpreted by

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the local the tengusis who who witnessed

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such a thing as being The Descent of

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Ogden the fire god

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and so right there we see the conflate

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conflation between myth and reality

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right so now let's get to that back

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again back to your question I've made a

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kind of a long convoluted route here but

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back to your question what is then

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if any the Phenom the real phenomena

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behind the interaction with gods that

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clearly seem

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anthropogenic in some respect and not so

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readily interpretable as being

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a rock from space but something

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intelligent that people are interact I

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mean how do you say well you know the

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stories of Isis and Osiris coming in

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being teachers teaching Agriculture and

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uh architecture and Mathematics and this

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is the kind of thing that we see over

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and over again uh in the stories

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typically you could you would not

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attribute the teaching of Agriculture or

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architecture to a rock from space

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right well you have to ask yourself

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where does that come from and and let me

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ask you this

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when you go back to the billions of uh

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of gallons of displacement per minute or

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whatever that crazy numbers

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um when you have something like the

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younger driest happen when

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um and I'm guessing here I'm not an

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expert but there are miles of Glacier

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Ice covering North America and you know

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much of the world but uh North America

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miles thick over Manhattan for instance

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and you have a cosmic event happen is

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the climate change that occurs from that

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enough to cause melting and that kind of

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displacement of water over North America

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absolutely Jimmy I think you're actually

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beginning to get a grasp of this thing

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after years and years and years of me

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trying to explain it to you I think it's

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starting to get here yeah well yes and I

555
00:24:28,669 --> 00:24:25,500
think the the answer is yes because now

556
00:24:29,930 --> 00:24:28,679
over Manhattan ice just you know for

557
00:24:32,930 --> 00:24:29,940
scientific clarification wouldn't have

558
00:24:35,330 --> 00:24:32,940
been miles thick in fact I after a lot

559
00:24:37,549 --> 00:24:35,340
of study I I I'm of the mind now that

560
00:24:39,710 --> 00:24:37,559
the maximum thickness of the ice sheet

561
00:24:42,250 --> 00:24:39,720
over its Central dome which was central

562
00:24:44,570 --> 00:24:42,260
Canada was about a mile and a half

563
00:24:47,450 --> 00:24:44,580
I don't think it quite got to two miles

564
00:24:49,010 --> 00:24:47,460
thick it maybe it's hard to say you know

565
00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:49,020
it is hard to say

566
00:24:53,450 --> 00:24:50,640
um what I mean how do we measure that

567
00:24:55,970 --> 00:24:53,460
well we're measuring it by the rate at

568
00:24:58,610 --> 00:24:55,980
which land is rebounding because with

569
00:25:00,590 --> 00:24:58,620
that tremendous weight of ice what's

570
00:25:03,350 --> 00:25:00,600
happened is it's you know basically

571
00:25:05,690 --> 00:25:03,360
caused the land to subside by probably

572
00:25:07,310 --> 00:25:05,700
up to a couple of thousand feet and it's

573
00:25:09,289 --> 00:25:07,320
just like this comfortable chair I'm

574
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:09,299
sitting right on right now there's a

575
00:25:14,510 --> 00:25:12,000
basin that is subsiding because I'm

576
00:25:16,970 --> 00:25:14,520
sitting on it and then when I get up

577
00:25:19,549 --> 00:25:16,980
it'll rebound now there's a geological

578
00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:19,559
term for that that vertical movement of

579
00:25:25,370 --> 00:25:21,840
the Earth's crust that occurs when

580
00:25:28,250 --> 00:25:25,380
surface loading is moved when it's

581
00:25:30,350 --> 00:25:28,260
changed right it's called isostatic

582
00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:30,360
compensation

583
00:25:34,669 --> 00:25:32,640
so

584
00:25:36,830 --> 00:25:34,679
crust of the Earth can be depressed if

585
00:25:39,049 --> 00:25:36,840
you place a weight on it it can rebound

586
00:25:42,409 --> 00:25:39,059
if you take the weight away

587
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:42,419
let me jump in Randall hold on hold on

588
00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:45,840
hold on when that happens on this side

589
00:25:49,789 --> 00:25:48,240
of the planet in North America

590
00:25:52,130 --> 00:25:49,799
something's got to give on the other

591
00:25:55,549 --> 00:25:52,140
side of the

592
00:25:57,250 --> 00:25:55,559
all right really impressed Jimmy what

593
00:25:59,210 --> 00:25:57,260
you must be

594
00:26:01,310 --> 00:25:59,220
you've been thinking about some of this

595
00:26:03,049 --> 00:26:01,320
you're exactly right and here here's the

596
00:26:05,390 --> 00:26:03,059
way to think about it imagine you've got

597
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:05,400
a beach ball and at the North and the

598
00:26:09,310 --> 00:26:06,720
South Pole you've got this huge

599
00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:09,320
accumulation of ice and so it compresses

600
00:26:14,510 --> 00:26:12,320
now you know obviously with a beach ball

601
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:14,520
you know when it's inflated it's going

602
00:26:18,529 --> 00:26:16,080
to be circular

603
00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:18,539
it's going to be spherical the Earth is

604
00:26:21,950 --> 00:26:20,400
not exactly as you know the Earth is not

605
00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:21,960
exactly spherical

606
00:26:26,750 --> 00:26:24,720
it's it's because of the spin the

607
00:26:29,930 --> 00:26:26,760
centrifugal force it bulges at the

608
00:26:33,649 --> 00:26:29,940
Equator so the equator distance diameter

609
00:26:36,590 --> 00:26:33,659
of that sphere spheroid actually is 26

610
00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:36,600
miles greater than the polar diameter

611
00:26:42,350 --> 00:26:40,080
right now like you said if you if you

612
00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:42,360
take that beach ball if you press it

613
00:26:48,470 --> 00:26:46,080
this way it bulges this way doesn't it

614
00:26:50,930 --> 00:26:48,480
that's exactly and that right there

615
00:26:53,330 --> 00:26:50,940
Jimmy is an example of isostatic

616
00:26:55,850 --> 00:26:53,340
compensation

617
00:26:57,950 --> 00:26:55,860
um and so yes if you are depressing and

618
00:27:00,470 --> 00:26:57,960
see I go into an elaborate explanation

619
00:27:03,409 --> 00:27:00,480
on this relative in it and it Bears

620
00:27:04,850 --> 00:27:03,419
directly on the question of Atlantis

621
00:27:07,730 --> 00:27:04,860
which is where it gets really

622
00:27:09,830 --> 00:27:07,740
interesting because Atlantis is

623
00:27:12,409 --> 00:27:09,840
essentially if we take Plato it is it is

624
00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:12,419
word Plato's Atlantis was a large

625
00:27:18,710 --> 00:27:16,559
complex of islands that sank and beneath

626
00:27:21,769 --> 00:27:18,720
the ocean I mean he literally says that

627
00:27:24,169 --> 00:27:21,779
that it sank it was a earthquake and

628
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:24,179
consequence of that earthquake the

629
00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:27,600
island and or islands of Atlantis sank

630
00:27:33,049 --> 00:27:30,659
right well the date that he gives is

631
00:27:36,169 --> 00:27:33,059
very interesting because it's nine

632
00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:36,179
thousand years before solon's exile in

633
00:27:42,289 --> 00:27:39,360
Egypt which occurred roughly 600 BC so

634
00:27:44,269 --> 00:27:42,299
if you do the math 600 BC is 2600 years

635
00:27:47,930 --> 00:27:44,279
ago and add 9 000 years to that and

636
00:27:50,690 --> 00:27:47,940
that's 11 600 years ago well 11 600

637
00:27:52,810 --> 00:27:50,700
years ago is now precisely the

638
00:27:55,490 --> 00:27:52,820
transition point between the previous

639
00:27:57,890 --> 00:27:55,500
pleistocene era that lasted or Epoch

640
00:28:00,950 --> 00:27:57,900
that lasted for two and a half million

641
00:28:02,990 --> 00:28:00,960
years and the present Holocene and

642
00:28:05,870 --> 00:28:03,000
there's an event two things the event

643
00:28:08,690 --> 00:28:05,880
there was a climatic event which is the

644
00:28:12,289 --> 00:28:08,700
end of the younger driest it's in in in

645
00:28:13,549 --> 00:28:12,299
in geological terms the younger driest

646
00:28:15,890 --> 00:28:13,559
ended

647
00:28:20,269 --> 00:28:15,900
um at the stage of the younger driest

648
00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:20,279
replaced by the stage of the pre-boreal

649
00:28:24,529 --> 00:28:21,120
um

650
00:28:27,769 --> 00:28:24,539
that's dated 11 600 years ago and it's

651
00:28:29,090 --> 00:28:27,779
associated with a large warming Spike

652
00:28:31,130 --> 00:28:29,100
um in the climate of the Northern

653
00:28:32,510 --> 00:28:31,140
Hemisphere and in fact that signal is

654
00:28:34,370 --> 00:28:32,520
more and more evidence is suggesting

655
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:34,380
that that warming signal is global in

656
00:28:38,990 --> 00:28:35,760
extent

657
00:28:40,610 --> 00:28:39,000
associated with that warming was

658
00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:40,620
um what the Marine geologists the

659
00:28:46,610 --> 00:28:43,200
oceanographers called melt water pulse

660
00:28:49,549 --> 00:28:46,620
1B so melt water pulse 1B was this

661
00:28:52,070 --> 00:28:49,559
gigantic pulse of melt water rapidly

662
00:28:56,990 --> 00:28:52,080
introduced into the world's oceans at 11

663
00:28:59,690 --> 00:28:57,000
600 years ago exactly when Plato dates

664
00:29:01,850 --> 00:28:59,700
the sinking of Atlantis now

665
00:29:03,529 --> 00:29:01,860
conventional Academia is just not even

666
00:29:05,210 --> 00:29:03,539
going to pay attention to that if you a

667
00:29:08,450 --> 00:29:05,220
question about them it's the question

668
00:29:10,610 --> 00:29:08,460
them about that it's nothing more than a

669
00:29:13,250 --> 00:29:10,620
coincidence I don't think it's a

670
00:29:15,370 --> 00:29:13,260
coincidence I think it's a I think it's

671
00:29:18,350 --> 00:29:15,380
a confirmation of modern scientific

672
00:29:20,289 --> 00:29:18,360
evidence confirming what ancients knew

673
00:29:25,970 --> 00:29:20,299
and passed down to us our ancient

674
00:29:28,130 --> 00:29:25,980
ancestors now wasn't 1B uh also

675
00:29:32,269 --> 00:29:28,140
associated with the landmass that

676
00:29:35,450 --> 00:29:32,279
disappeared between the UK and Europe

677
00:29:37,730 --> 00:29:35,460
and doggerland oh yes yeah doggerland

678
00:29:40,490 --> 00:29:37,740
disappeared in several stages because

679
00:29:42,830 --> 00:29:40,500
you had that whole area between the UK

680
00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:42,840
what is now the British Isles and the

681
00:29:47,389 --> 00:29:44,640
European Mainland which during the late

682
00:29:51,230 --> 00:29:47,399
glacial maximum you got to keep in mind

683
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:51,240
that as you're locking this ice up on

684
00:29:55,970 --> 00:29:53,760
top of the land it's being extracted

685
00:29:58,010 --> 00:29:55,980
from the oceans now normally what

686
00:29:59,870 --> 00:29:58,020
happens is you know winter like think

687
00:30:01,669 --> 00:29:59,880
about the the snowfall we're getting in

688
00:30:03,710 --> 00:30:01,679
the west and in Canada and stuff this

689
00:30:04,850 --> 00:30:03,720
year huge amounts of snow a lot of

690
00:30:06,289 --> 00:30:04,860
snowpack

691
00:30:08,269 --> 00:30:06,299
what's going to happen when the weather

692
00:30:11,029 --> 00:30:08,279
warms that's all going to melt

693
00:30:14,450 --> 00:30:11,039
so in the annual cycle

694
00:30:17,870 --> 00:30:14,460
of the of the year right from winter to

695
00:30:19,250 --> 00:30:17,880
summer you've got accumulation you've

696
00:30:21,370 --> 00:30:19,260
got sort of like guess what you could

697
00:30:24,830 --> 00:30:21,380
say like an interruption of the annual

698
00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:24,840
hydrological cycle so in other words it

699
00:30:29,090 --> 00:30:26,399
precipitates over the Northern

700
00:30:32,570 --> 00:30:29,100
Hemisphere but it's frozen in the form

701
00:30:35,810 --> 00:30:32,580
of snow come spring it melts and flows

702
00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:35,820
back now in the summer the the rainfall

703
00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:38,159
is going to fall on the land some of

704
00:30:41,330 --> 00:30:39,600
it's going to evaporate some of it's

705
00:30:44,029 --> 00:30:41,340
going to be taken up by

706
00:30:46,370 --> 00:30:44,039
um by plants in the biosphere others is

707
00:30:48,350 --> 00:30:46,380
going to go into the groundwater but the

708
00:30:52,010 --> 00:30:48,360
the hydrological cycle is continuous

709
00:30:54,350 --> 00:30:52,020
right then it's interrupted for six

710
00:30:57,409 --> 00:30:54,360
seven months a year in the northern

711
00:30:59,990 --> 00:30:57,419
hemisphere now at that point the the

712
00:31:02,810 --> 00:31:00,000
precipitation occurs over the land it

713
00:31:05,210 --> 00:31:02,820
builds up and you might have you know 20

714
00:31:07,850 --> 00:31:05,220
or 30 feet of snowpack by the end of the

715
00:31:10,010 --> 00:31:07,860
uh of the season right

716
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:10,020
well now when you let's extrapolate to

717
00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:12,240
an Ice Age what happens with an ice age

718
00:31:17,389 --> 00:31:15,360
is the normal hydrological cycle is

719
00:31:20,029 --> 00:31:17,399
interrupted and the evidence suggests

720
00:31:21,889 --> 00:31:20,039
that that Interruption is really fast

721
00:31:23,870 --> 00:31:21,899
and then what you have like in the

722
00:31:27,610 --> 00:31:23,880
northern hemisphere think of it this way

723
00:31:30,409 --> 00:31:27,620
you have the first freeze of the year

724
00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:30,419
the planet goes into

725
00:31:35,510 --> 00:31:33,360
Ice Age cold and then winter lasts for

726
00:31:38,029 --> 00:31:35,520
15 000 years

727
00:31:40,549 --> 00:31:38,039
and now every year precipitation you've

728
00:31:43,010 --> 00:31:40,559
got the snow onto the onto the to the

729
00:31:45,529 --> 00:31:43,020
land then that's building up into ice

730
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:45,539
it's the pressure of the overlying

731
00:31:50,210 --> 00:31:48,240
snowpack increases it compresses the

732
00:31:52,570 --> 00:31:50,220
layers at the bottom first through a

733
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:52,580
transitional phase cause called Fern

734
00:31:57,169 --> 00:31:55,679
f-i-r-n and then it transforms into

735
00:31:59,389 --> 00:31:57,179
glacial ice

736
00:32:01,669 --> 00:31:59,399
this like during the late glacial

737
00:32:05,169 --> 00:32:01,679
maximum lasted for perhaps fifteen

738
00:32:08,029 --> 00:32:05,179
thousand years and then all of a sudden

739
00:32:10,789 --> 00:32:08,039
you just it just suddenly like the God

740
00:32:14,210 --> 00:32:10,799
said time to get rid of this and so over

741
00:32:16,909 --> 00:32:14,220
a series of great pulses of melting

742
00:32:19,010 --> 00:32:16,919
the ice cap was essentially destroyed

743
00:32:22,370 --> 00:32:19,020
and that water was introduced back into

744
00:32:24,409 --> 00:32:22,380
the ocean basins we can see in fact I

745
00:32:26,090 --> 00:32:24,419
could actually I maybe I might even have

746
00:32:28,490 --> 00:32:26,100
it handy where if you there are aerial

747
00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:28,500
photographs of Hudson Bay where you can

748
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:30,720
see shorelines that are now elevated

749
00:32:35,630 --> 00:32:33,120
like a thousand feet above sea level

750
00:32:38,330 --> 00:32:35,640
and that shows how much the land has

751
00:32:40,669 --> 00:32:38,340
risen when that overlying ice was

752
00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:40,679
removed and just like you said Jimmy

753
00:32:44,750 --> 00:32:42,960
when you introduce reintroduce that ice

754
00:32:47,149 --> 00:32:44,760
into the ocean basins

755
00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:47,159
there has to be a corresponding movement

756
00:32:52,970 --> 00:32:49,679
downward because what's happening Jimmy

757
00:32:55,970 --> 00:32:52,980
is the geoid is trying to

758
00:32:58,370 --> 00:32:55,980
um have everything consistent so if if

759
00:33:00,830 --> 00:32:58,380
you move one place it has to be a

760
00:33:02,750 --> 00:33:00,840
compensatory movement somewhere else

761
00:33:04,610 --> 00:33:02,760
just like you said I mean you had it you

762
00:33:06,769 --> 00:33:04,620
nailed it you got it perfectly and that

763
00:33:09,289 --> 00:33:06,779
is what's happening to the planet and I

764
00:33:11,630 --> 00:33:09,299
think that goes a long way to explaining

765
00:33:15,529 --> 00:33:11,640
some of the phenomena

766
00:33:18,049 --> 00:33:15,539
for example there is when you press the

767
00:33:21,230 --> 00:33:18,059
the the ice down like this in the center

768
00:33:23,450 --> 00:33:21,240
like if you look at where the center of

769
00:33:26,330 --> 00:33:23,460
the greatest thickness of ice was

770
00:33:30,730 --> 00:33:26,340
that is the deepest Basin under the ice

771
00:33:35,630 --> 00:33:33,710
and also if you look at the United

772
00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:35,640
States and I've thought about this a lot

773
00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:37,260
Randall

774
00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:39,360
um you've got the Smoky Mountains you've

775
00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:41,039
got the Rocky Mountains and you've got

776
00:33:45,710 --> 00:33:43,440
like 2 000 miles of flat plain in the

777
00:33:48,409 --> 00:33:45,720
middle that looks like it was leveled

778
00:33:52,190 --> 00:33:48,419
out by a ice at one point there's no

779
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:52,200
mountains it's flat right and water and

780
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:54,960
now if we if we think about it in those

781
00:34:00,049 --> 00:33:56,880
terms at that time

782
00:34:02,330 --> 00:34:00,059
is that the flood myth that is part of

783
00:34:05,750 --> 00:34:02,340
every culture on this planet is that

784
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:07,909
interesting question of course you've

785
00:34:13,070 --> 00:34:11,520
got a very old mountain range Eastern

786
00:34:16,669 --> 00:34:13,080
United States the Appalachians

787
00:34:19,849 --> 00:34:16,679
Appalachians to use the local uh

788
00:34:24,070 --> 00:34:19,859
pronunciation the Appalachians which I

789
00:34:26,510 --> 00:34:24,080
think go back to you know early or late

790
00:34:28,369 --> 00:34:26,520
Paleozoic I think in origin which means

791
00:34:32,030 --> 00:34:28,379
they're a couple hundred million years

792
00:34:34,190 --> 00:34:32,040
old Rocky Mountains Sierra Nevadas

793
00:34:37,010 --> 00:34:34,200
Cascades by contrast are very young

794
00:34:38,530 --> 00:34:37,020
mountains the difference is that in the

795
00:34:41,210 --> 00:34:38,540
the young mountains

796
00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:41,220
you've got you know you see the sharp

797
00:34:46,190 --> 00:34:43,440
Peaks the angular rocks

798
00:34:49,010 --> 00:34:46,200
things like that but you don't see the

799
00:34:52,010 --> 00:34:49,020
kind of more rounded off Nubs like you

800
00:34:55,849 --> 00:34:52,020
see in the Eastern Appalachians or say

801
00:34:58,130 --> 00:34:55,859
in the Ozarks Ozarks are old as well so

802
00:35:01,670 --> 00:34:58,140
they've been eroded now if you look at

803
00:35:04,609 --> 00:35:01,680
the Appalachians in that these millions

804
00:35:06,829 --> 00:35:04,619
of years of erosion you add erosion to

805
00:35:08,750 --> 00:35:06,839
the East and you had erosion to the West

806
00:35:10,670 --> 00:35:08,760
in other words if you're taking removing

807
00:35:13,250 --> 00:35:10,680
material from those original mountains

808
00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:13,260
that were on the scale of the Rockies or

809
00:35:19,069 --> 00:35:15,359
the Sierra Nevadas

810
00:35:21,170 --> 00:35:19,079
it's got to end up somewhere right to

811
00:35:23,690 --> 00:35:21,180
the east it Formed what is called the

812
00:35:25,550 --> 00:35:23,700
Piedmont of the the foot slopes the the

813
00:35:28,430 --> 00:35:25,560
people like where I live is on the

814
00:35:30,410 --> 00:35:28,440
Piedmont so you have this transition of

815
00:35:33,050 --> 00:35:30,420
these geomorphic landforms you have the

816
00:35:34,730 --> 00:35:33,060
Appalachian Highlands then you have the

817
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:34,740
Piedmont and then the Piedmont

818
00:35:39,770 --> 00:35:37,440
transitions into the coastal plain now

819
00:35:41,510 --> 00:35:39,780
the coastal plain is mostly ancient

820
00:35:44,569 --> 00:35:41,520
Marine deposits if you look at a map

821
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:44,579
you'll see that there's a Zone it runs

822
00:35:49,069 --> 00:35:47,040
through Macon Georgia here south of

823
00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:49,079
where I live and it's a pretty distinct

824
00:35:53,450 --> 00:35:50,880
transition it's called the fall line

825
00:35:55,970 --> 00:35:53,460
that fall line represents the transition

826
00:35:58,609 --> 00:35:55,980
between the Piedmont which is composed

827
00:36:01,970 --> 00:35:58,619
of sediments washed off of the formation

828
00:36:04,130 --> 00:36:01,980
of the Appalachians and ancient High sea

829
00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:04,140
level stance that in other words sea

830
00:36:09,530 --> 00:36:06,960
level at one point came up to that fall

831
00:36:12,829 --> 00:36:09,540
line which means that large portions of

832
00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:12,839
the southeast are were at that point I

833
00:36:16,490 --> 00:36:14,880
mean underwater I could pull up Google

834
00:36:17,870 --> 00:36:16,500
Earth here and actually see what the

835
00:36:19,810 --> 00:36:17,880
elevation is you didn't have to raise

836
00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:19,820
sea levels a whole lot

837
00:36:25,010 --> 00:36:22,320
but so you had those three you had the

838
00:36:27,290 --> 00:36:25,020
the the the highlands the Uplands of the

839
00:36:29,870 --> 00:36:27,300
mountains that washed away formed the

840
00:36:32,829 --> 00:36:29,880
Piedmont and then you had oceans that's

841
00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:32,839
repeatedly risen to that level a

842
00:36:37,730 --> 00:36:35,280
transgression and Then followed by a

843
00:36:40,730 --> 00:36:37,740
regression now during the late glacial

844
00:36:44,270 --> 00:36:40,740
maximum because there was so much ice on

845
00:36:47,569 --> 00:36:44,280
the land surface sea levels were lowered

846
00:36:49,730 --> 00:36:47,579
globally by at least 400 feet now think

847
00:36:51,349 --> 00:36:49,740
about this Jimmy if you're lowering sea

848
00:36:55,010 --> 00:36:51,359
level what's happening to the Shoreline

849
00:36:58,190 --> 00:36:55,020
it's exposed it's exposed and the

850
00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:58,200
coastline is moving it's migrating so

851
00:37:03,290 --> 00:37:00,960
during what we call regressions of the

852
00:37:06,050 --> 00:37:03,300
sea as C is lowering the coastline is

853
00:37:08,750 --> 00:37:06,060
migrating seaward as this the

854
00:37:12,290 --> 00:37:08,760
transgression or the rise of sea level

855
00:37:14,810 --> 00:37:12,300
now the coastline is moving Inland

856
00:37:15,950 --> 00:37:14,820
makes sense doesn't it right so we can

857
00:37:18,170 --> 00:37:15,960
we can actually

858
00:37:19,970 --> 00:37:18,180
you know for example find ancient corals

859
00:37:22,190 --> 00:37:19,980
that are high in you know remnants of

860
00:37:24,290 --> 00:37:22,200
ancient corals that are high and dry Now

861
00:37:26,690 --> 00:37:24,300
50 feet above sea level

862
00:37:30,170 --> 00:37:26,700
which tells us one of two things either

863
00:37:33,170 --> 00:37:30,180
the sea was up or the land was down

864
00:37:35,390 --> 00:37:33,180
and it can be either one or both now

865
00:37:38,270 --> 00:37:35,400
when you had that massive ice weight

866
00:37:41,329 --> 00:37:38,280
over North America and and it it

867
00:37:42,650 --> 00:37:41,339
depresses like this it what happens to

868
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:42,660
the rim let me see if I can do it with

869
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:44,640
my hands depresses in the middle here's

870
00:37:51,410 --> 00:37:47,040
what happens with the rim

871
00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:51,420
um glacial four bulge it's called

872
00:37:56,030 --> 00:37:53,520
and that can actually amount to hundreds

873
00:37:58,910 --> 00:37:56,040
of feet where the land has just been

874
00:38:01,490 --> 00:37:58,920
lifted up where it's in the center it's

875
00:38:04,250 --> 00:38:01,500
squashed down around the rim it's lifted

876
00:38:06,589 --> 00:38:04,260
up and then when that weight is removed

877
00:38:08,050 --> 00:38:06,599
the land in the middle comes up into

878
00:38:12,589 --> 00:38:08,060
four bulge

879
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:12,599
relaxes and subsides back down so what

880
00:38:16,130 --> 00:38:14,400
this is telling us Jimmy is that as we

881
00:38:19,670 --> 00:38:16,140
look back now into the history of this

882
00:38:21,890 --> 00:38:19,680
planet compared to the the models we had

883
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:21,900
of planetary change at half a century to

884
00:38:25,370 --> 00:38:23,280
a century ago

885
00:38:28,430 --> 00:38:25,380
you remember how much continental drift

886
00:38:32,030 --> 00:38:28,440
met with tremendous amount of resistance

887
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:32,040
because why because the early 20th

888
00:38:38,329 --> 00:38:35,520
century model was of a fixed planet that

889
00:38:40,490 --> 00:38:38,339
only changed very minutely and

890
00:38:42,530 --> 00:38:40,500
incrementally at a given time

891
00:38:43,970 --> 00:38:42,540
they were so

892
00:38:46,670 --> 00:38:43,980
so

893
00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:46,680
um invested in this model that they did

894
00:38:50,270 --> 00:38:48,480
not even want to accept the fact that

895
00:38:53,390 --> 00:38:50,280
the the tectonic plates may move

896
00:38:56,030 --> 00:38:53,400
laterally a few centimeters a year

897
00:38:58,250 --> 00:38:56,040
that model now is just completely

898
00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:58,260
Obsolete and we know that the planet we

899
00:39:02,390 --> 00:39:00,960
live on is tremendously dynamic in in

900
00:39:05,690 --> 00:39:02,400
many ways

901
00:39:08,270 --> 00:39:05,700
a continental drift wasn't it was fought

902
00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:08,280
out of the way up to 1955. I mean this

903
00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:10,560
is recent history

904
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:12,480
it doesn't show up really begin showing

905
00:39:16,370 --> 00:39:14,400
up in the textbooks until the 60s and

906
00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:16,380
70s yeah that's right that's right okay

907
00:39:20,210 --> 00:39:18,480
so let me ask you this Randall well if

908
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:20,220
we take all of this into consideration

909
00:39:26,210 --> 00:39:22,320
going back to the flood myths and Plato

910
00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:26,220
and everything else that if we had uh

911
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:28,560
that kind of glacial glacial melting

912
00:39:35,810 --> 00:39:32,160
which happened in in a time scale of a

913
00:39:38,450 --> 00:39:35,820
pretty you know almost overnight

914
00:39:42,109 --> 00:39:38,460
um that the sea level rise didn't just

915
00:39:45,230 --> 00:39:42,119
happen uh here it happened in the

916
00:39:50,750 --> 00:39:45,240
Mediterranean had to rise right yes the

917
00:39:52,190 --> 00:39:50,760
uh uh where uh Cairo is today and the

918
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:52,200
Eastern side of the Mediterranean I'm

919
00:39:56,930 --> 00:39:54,000
talking about Lebanon and Jerusalem and

920
00:40:00,829 --> 00:39:56,940
and all of that they had to experience

921
00:40:02,750 --> 00:40:00,839
crazy flooding right and and Persia and

922
00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:02,760
and everything else

923
00:40:07,310 --> 00:40:05,280
um because of what was happening now I

924
00:40:08,930 --> 00:40:07,320
think that there are three ways that we

925
00:40:10,550 --> 00:40:08,940
can account for these catastrophic

926
00:40:13,370 --> 00:40:10,560
floods

927
00:40:16,190 --> 00:40:13,380
in the northern United States we have

928
00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:16,200
gigantic floods that are directly the

929
00:40:22,250 --> 00:40:19,260
result of very rapid melting of the ice

930
00:40:26,210 --> 00:40:22,260
sheet direct flows I mean we're talking

931
00:40:28,130 --> 00:40:26,220
tsunami scale magnitudes of flows coming

932
00:40:29,329 --> 00:40:28,140
off of those ice sheets hundreds of

933
00:40:33,230 --> 00:40:29,339
miles an hour

934
00:40:35,450 --> 00:40:33,240
well again depends on the gradient now

935
00:40:37,790 --> 00:40:35,460
if it's coming off now think of the ice

936
00:40:39,410 --> 00:40:37,800
sheet as a big dome if that melting is

937
00:40:41,870 --> 00:40:39,420
coming from the center of that Dome and

938
00:40:44,810 --> 00:40:41,880
it's moving with very little friction or

939
00:40:46,970 --> 00:40:44,820
resistance over at the Steep gradient of

940
00:40:50,510 --> 00:40:46,980
the ice sheet itself what what a

941
00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:50,520
glaciologist refers refers to as I'm

942
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:52,400
going to teach you a new word Supra

943
00:40:59,089 --> 00:40:55,920
Supra glacial Supreme going over the top

944
00:41:01,970 --> 00:40:59,099
as say contrasted with sub glacial

945
00:41:04,970 --> 00:41:01,980
flowing underneath it is very possible

946
00:41:08,750 --> 00:41:04,980
Jimmy that super glacial flows could

947
00:41:11,569 --> 00:41:08,760
achieve those types of velocities once

948
00:41:13,310 --> 00:41:11,579
it hits the land though now you're not

949
00:41:16,970 --> 00:41:13,320
looking at the same type of a gradient

950
00:41:18,890 --> 00:41:16,980
but you have tremendous flows say down

951
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:18,900
melt water flows down to Central United

952
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:21,599
States that ultimately carved the

953
00:41:25,730 --> 00:41:23,280
Mississippi River Valley

954
00:41:28,730 --> 00:41:25,740
those flows were giant but they were

955
00:41:30,650 --> 00:41:28,740
relatively slow because it's a shallow

956
00:41:33,950 --> 00:41:30,660
gradient and it's over a thousand miles

957
00:41:35,450 --> 00:41:33,960
to get from the ice sheet margin to the

958
00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:35,460
Gulf of Mexico

959
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:38,400
by contrast go up to Washington state in

960
00:41:43,130 --> 00:41:40,560
the in the channel scablands and now

961
00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:43,140
you're going from two thousand to three

962
00:41:47,930 --> 00:41:45,599
thousand feet above sea level down to

963
00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:47,940
sea level in a couple hundred miles

964
00:41:53,690 --> 00:41:51,060
so now that water is going to be moving

965
00:41:57,250 --> 00:41:53,700
a whole lot faster yeah it's moving it's

966
00:42:00,349 --> 00:41:57,260
erosive potential is many times greater

967
00:42:02,210 --> 00:42:00,359
now we can look at the Mississippi

968
00:42:04,430 --> 00:42:02,220
Valley I mean I could pull up I've got

969
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:04,440
my I've got Google Maps right here can I

970
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:05,760
pull that up and we look at something

971
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:08,240
real quick yeah yeah you can

972
00:42:15,829 --> 00:42:12,000
can I ask you a dumb question

973
00:42:18,829 --> 00:42:15,839
yeah I mean so far I mean most of our no

974
00:42:21,349 --> 00:42:18,839
I'm yeah sure go ahead ask me a dump I

975
00:42:27,829 --> 00:42:21,359
might give you a dumb answer but was

976
00:42:31,790 --> 00:42:29,870
I don't know about that what I do know

977
00:42:34,730 --> 00:42:31,800
about Devil's Tower is it's a volcanic

978
00:42:38,270 --> 00:42:34,740
diatream a very dense basalt rock and it

979
00:42:40,490 --> 00:42:38,280
was once the top of Devil's Canyon was

980
00:42:43,250 --> 00:42:40,500
once the surface of the ground

981
00:42:46,250 --> 00:42:43,260
ah see okay now we're we're kind of

982
00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:46,260
thinking along the same ways in that and

983
00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:49,440
this is what when you drive around uh it

984
00:42:54,730 --> 00:42:51,359
doesn't matter if it's Utah even New

985
00:42:59,450 --> 00:42:54,740
Mexico or certainly head across Arizona

986
00:43:01,069 --> 00:42:59,460
and you see uh what appears to be as I

987
00:43:04,370 --> 00:43:01,079
look up right here in the Mojave Desert

988
00:43:06,829 --> 00:43:04,380
I see it that I'm wondering if I'm

989
00:43:09,710 --> 00:43:06,839
driving on a sea bed

990
00:43:12,530 --> 00:43:09,720
because I can see layers off in the

991
00:43:15,230 --> 00:43:12,540
distance and it looks like that was all

992
00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:15,240
under water and those Peaks that I see

993
00:43:20,030 --> 00:43:18,000
when you see trees on the top of that

994
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:20,040
maybe those were Islands at one point

995
00:43:25,790 --> 00:43:23,280
and we this was all ocean

996
00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:25,800
well yes there have been I mean now

997
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:27,599
we're getting into the you know the Deep

998
00:43:31,490 --> 00:43:30,240
history of of the geologie of the planet

999
00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:31,500
because there have been you know the

1000
00:43:35,150 --> 00:43:32,640
Great

1001
00:43:38,510 --> 00:43:35,160
uh Mid-Continental Seaway that was back

1002
00:43:42,650 --> 00:43:38,520
here in cretacea times yeah the key here

1003
00:43:46,190 --> 00:43:42,660
is limestones if that the terrain was

1004
00:43:49,250 --> 00:43:46,200
underwater you should look for the type

1005
00:43:51,950 --> 00:43:49,260
of rock that forms in in water and

1006
00:43:53,510 --> 00:43:51,960
that's limestones and so if the Bedrock

1007
00:43:55,609 --> 00:43:53,520
is limestone you know that at some time

1008
00:43:56,930 --> 00:43:55,619
there was an ocean there now if you look

1009
00:43:59,329 --> 00:43:56,940
at a mountain range and there are

1010
00:44:01,730 --> 00:43:59,339
limestones at ten thousand feet you know

1011
00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:01,740
that those limestones were once below

1012
00:44:05,809 --> 00:44:03,839
sea level and that the land has lifted

1013
00:44:08,510 --> 00:44:05,819
up that much

1014
00:44:11,750 --> 00:44:08,520
so so yeah you're definitely on the

1015
00:44:15,849 --> 00:44:11,760
right track I mean I see um I see a

1016
00:44:24,829 --> 00:44:20,210
see the thing is and once

1017
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:24,839
um uh the shifts of land mass started to

1018
00:44:31,790 --> 00:44:27,119
get accepted in the 1950s you're right

1019
00:44:34,730 --> 00:44:31,800
uh textbooks uh 1960s 1965.

1020
00:44:37,069 --> 00:44:34,740
um that before that to think that

1021
00:44:39,170 --> 00:44:37,079
everything was static right and that's

1022
00:44:42,050 --> 00:44:39,180
what was taught and that was the mindset

1023
00:44:45,230 --> 00:44:42,060
now we know that that certainly isn't

1024
00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:45,240
the case it opens the door with did

1025
00:44:50,690 --> 00:44:48,000
Antarctica move there what did happen

1026
00:44:53,390 --> 00:44:50,700
with something like Atlantis what what

1027
00:44:55,309 --> 00:44:53,400
was Greenland always where it was was

1028
00:44:58,910 --> 00:44:55,319
the United States and Europe connected

1029
00:45:01,550 --> 00:44:58,920
was uh South America and Africa one

1030
00:45:03,170 --> 00:45:01,560
continent at one point how did Australia

1031
00:45:05,690 --> 00:45:03,180
get to where it was these are questions

1032
00:45:08,569 --> 00:45:05,700
that we have to have and were there

1033
00:45:11,390 --> 00:45:08,579
civilizations back then a couple hundred

1034
00:45:14,030 --> 00:45:11,400
million years ago okay now we're regard

1035
00:45:16,190 --> 00:45:14,040
to that you know I'm open to anything

1036
00:45:18,109 --> 00:45:16,200
that you can present me the evidence you

1037
00:45:20,750 --> 00:45:18,119
cited a bunch of different things that

1038
00:45:24,410 --> 00:45:20,760
actually invoke multiple time scales

1039
00:45:26,510 --> 00:45:24,420
um the drifting apart of of say North

1040
00:45:28,609 --> 00:45:26,520
American Europe South American Africa

1041
00:45:30,650 --> 00:45:28,619
almost certainly occurred as a part of

1042
00:45:31,910 --> 00:45:30,660
continental drift but this would have

1043
00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:31,920
been something that we're going going

1044
00:45:37,490 --> 00:45:35,040
back 100 million years now I've seen at

1045
00:45:38,990 --> 00:45:37,500
this point no convincing evidence for a

1046
00:45:41,569 --> 00:45:39,000
human presence or the presence of

1047
00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:41,579
civilization on earth 100 million years

1048
00:45:46,130 --> 00:45:43,440
ago there are anomalies

1049
00:45:48,170 --> 00:45:46,140
I'm not convinced that the that the

1050
00:45:50,270 --> 00:45:48,180
again it goes back to the Occam's razor

1051
00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:50,280
principle yes there looks like what

1052
00:45:54,410 --> 00:45:52,079
could be an artifact and it's found in

1053
00:45:56,750 --> 00:45:54,420
an ancient Coliseum so my first

1054
00:45:59,690 --> 00:45:56,760
explanation would you know obviously if

1055
00:46:01,490 --> 00:45:59,700
is it an artifact actually or does it

1056
00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:01,500
just have the appearance of an artifact

1057
00:46:06,230 --> 00:46:05,040
and if it's an artifact is there a way

1058
00:46:07,010 --> 00:46:06,240
we could

1059
00:46:09,349 --> 00:46:07,020
um

1060
00:46:12,530 --> 00:46:09,359
put that artifact in that particular

1061
00:46:14,450 --> 00:46:12,540
strata without it having actually been

1062
00:46:16,370 --> 00:46:14,460
deposited there at the same time the

1063
00:46:20,210 --> 00:46:16,380
strata was

1064
00:46:22,609 --> 00:46:20,220
my thoughts about that is that given the

1065
00:46:25,849 --> 00:46:22,619
dynamic nature of a catastrophic Planet

1066
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:25,859
there are multiple ways you can jumble

1067
00:46:32,569 --> 00:46:30,000
up things of vastly different age right

1068
00:46:35,870 --> 00:46:32,579
in the old static models where you know

1069
00:46:38,510 --> 00:46:35,880
you might have an area slowly eroded

1070
00:46:41,329 --> 00:46:38,520
down and another area slowly built up

1071
00:46:43,069 --> 00:46:41,339
everything is going to be

1072
00:46:44,990 --> 00:46:43,079
um it's going to be consistent with its

1073
00:46:47,770 --> 00:46:45,000
with the time scheduled that it's

1074
00:46:51,410 --> 00:46:47,780
associated with right the the time frame

1075
00:46:56,510 --> 00:46:51,420
so what's going to happen then though in

1076
00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:56,520
a catastrophe is that nice sequential

1077
00:47:03,890 --> 00:46:59,760
array of deposits can be completely

1078
00:47:06,410 --> 00:47:03,900
disrupted completely disrupted and um so

1079
00:47:09,410 --> 00:47:06,420
therefore I I wouldn't I would be very

1080
00:47:11,569 --> 00:47:09,420
cautious about assuming that something

1081
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:11,579
that looks to be a hundred million years

1082
00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:14,400
old that resembles a human artifact is

1083
00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:16,260
in fact that without asking a lot of

1084
00:47:22,609 --> 00:47:20,400
questions first the second thing is that

1085
00:47:24,109 --> 00:47:22,619
things do keep getting older and older I

1086
00:47:27,370 --> 00:47:24,119
mean I've just recently been looking at

1087
00:47:30,109 --> 00:47:27,380
some studies for the early uh seafaring

1088
00:47:32,569 --> 00:47:30,119
capabilities it is now looking like

1089
00:47:35,450 --> 00:47:32,579
there was seafaring abilities going back

1090
00:47:37,069 --> 00:47:35,460
over 400 000 years

1091
00:47:39,050 --> 00:47:37,079
I remember

1092
00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:39,060
um in making Atlantis presentations

1093
00:47:42,770 --> 00:47:41,280
people were you know some of the critics

1094
00:47:44,990 --> 00:47:42,780
and the Skeptics were talking well it

1095
00:47:48,490 --> 00:47:45,000
said it's islands in the middle of the

1096
00:47:50,990 --> 00:47:48,500
Atlantic Ocean but we can show that

1097
00:47:54,349 --> 00:47:51,000
islands in the Mediterranean were

1098
00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:54,359
inhabited tens of thousands if not a

1099
00:47:59,170 --> 00:47:56,160
hundred thousand years ago or longer

1100
00:48:02,750 --> 00:47:59,180
which meant that somebody

1101
00:48:04,910 --> 00:48:02,760
hominids of some kind maybe modern

1102
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:04,920
humans maybe even there's evidence that

1103
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:06,800
neanderthals had

1104
00:48:11,210 --> 00:48:09,839
seafaring capabilities now emerging um

1105
00:48:13,490 --> 00:48:11,220
because how do you get Neanderthal

1106
00:48:15,050 --> 00:48:13,500
remains on an island right they had to

1107
00:48:17,089 --> 00:48:15,060
get there some way and it's too far to

1108
00:48:19,970 --> 00:48:17,099
swim so you assume that they came in a

1109
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:19,980
boat well it's not a huge leap to go

1110
00:48:23,809 --> 00:48:21,839
from there to you know the the sailing

1111
00:48:25,370 --> 00:48:23,819
time from Portugal to the Azores is

1112
00:48:28,010 --> 00:48:25,380
about 10 days

1113
00:48:30,650 --> 00:48:28,020
so if we've had the capability of

1114
00:48:33,050 --> 00:48:30,660
navigating at least over several hundred

1115
00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:33,060
miles going back a hundred thousand

1116
00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:34,079
years

1117
00:48:39,290 --> 00:48:36,480
why is it such a stretch to think that

1118
00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:39,300
it's completely out of the question that

1119
00:48:44,089 --> 00:48:41,760
some ancestors of ours twenty or thirty

1120
00:48:48,109 --> 00:48:44,099
thousand years ago could have navigated

1121
00:48:51,230 --> 00:48:48,119
west of The Straits of Gibraltar and

1122
00:48:53,089 --> 00:48:51,240
made landfall on and if it's if it's at

1123
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:53,099
late glacial maximum

1124
00:48:58,329 --> 00:48:55,680
the route is actually somewhat shorter

1125
00:49:01,490 --> 00:48:58,339
the islands are much bigger

1126
00:49:03,950 --> 00:49:01,500
isostatic compensation requires

1127
00:49:06,770 --> 00:49:03,960
absolutely that the ocean bottom along

1128
00:49:08,930 --> 00:49:06,780
that Mid-Atlantic Ridge would be higher

1129
00:49:11,210 --> 00:49:08,940
because of the for one thing you've done

1130
00:49:12,829 --> 00:49:11,220
two things you've removed weight from

1131
00:49:14,089 --> 00:49:12,839
the ocean and you've added it over the

1132
00:49:18,050 --> 00:49:14,099
continents

1133
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:18,060
it is there's nothing so out of the

1134
00:49:23,809 --> 00:49:21,359
question or or Fringe or or you know

1135
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:23,819
that any of that kind of thinking that

1136
00:49:28,250 --> 00:49:25,680
would exclude the possibility of

1137
00:49:31,730 --> 00:49:28,260
somebody navigating to those islands and

1138
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:31,740
discovering that during the the the the

1139
00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:35,280
um the the challenges of a world that's

1140
00:49:42,230 --> 00:49:39,200
locked into an Ice Age we know from

1141
00:49:43,970 --> 00:49:42,240
paleobotanical studies studies of the uh

1142
00:49:47,089 --> 00:49:43,980
the Gulf Stream and many other things

1143
00:49:48,410 --> 00:49:47,099
that that particular complex in that

1144
00:49:49,609 --> 00:49:48,420
particular region of the ocean would

1145
00:49:51,770 --> 00:49:49,619
have been actually one of the most

1146
00:49:55,069 --> 00:49:51,780
benign places and pleasant places to

1147
00:49:57,010 --> 00:49:55,079
live on earth during the ice ages so why

1148
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:57,020
is it so out of the question to these

1149
00:50:02,150 --> 00:49:59,520
academics that they immediately are so

1150
00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:02,160
derisively and contemptuously dismissive

1151
00:50:06,829 --> 00:50:04,800
of any thought of Atlantis like they

1152
00:50:09,950 --> 00:50:06,839
were in the attacks on Graham Hancock's

1153
00:50:11,809 --> 00:50:09,960
ancient apocalypse recently they were

1154
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:11,819
constantly bringing up that as if just

1155
00:50:15,910 --> 00:50:13,920
the mention of that word is enough to

1156
00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:15,920
discredit

1157
00:50:21,770 --> 00:50:18,480
you're not allowed to say it and then

1158
00:50:22,690 --> 00:50:21,780
now check this out Randall today just

1159
00:50:25,490 --> 00:50:22,700
today

1160
00:50:28,670 --> 00:50:25,500
addressing your point there's a press

1161
00:50:32,990 --> 00:50:28,680
release happened in the south of France

1162
00:50:34,910 --> 00:50:33,000
they found in a cave that was occupied

1163
00:50:36,370 --> 00:50:34,920
54

1164
00:50:38,750 --> 00:50:36,380
000 years ago

1165
00:50:40,190 --> 00:50:38,760
bows and arrows

1166
00:50:43,849 --> 00:50:40,200
now

1167
00:50:46,210 --> 00:50:43,859
in the same press release they said I

1168
00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:46,220
read this today on my new segment

1169
00:50:53,210 --> 00:50:49,520
that previous estimates

1170
00:50:55,609 --> 00:50:53,220
were bows and arrows in northern Europe

1171
00:50:58,490 --> 00:50:55,619
12 000 years ago they were first

1172
00:51:00,490 --> 00:50:58,500
introduced by modern humans they've just

1173
00:51:05,150 --> 00:51:00,500
pushed it back

1174
00:51:07,549 --> 00:51:05,160
forty two thousand years not not forty

1175
00:51:10,910 --> 00:51:07,559
two thousand months right

1176
00:51:14,510 --> 00:51:10,920
I have been believing all along

1177
00:51:16,670 --> 00:51:14,520
that Paleolithic peoples had bows and

1178
00:51:19,370 --> 00:51:16,680
arrows

1179
00:51:21,770 --> 00:51:19,380
that it was long before the the you know

1180
00:51:24,170 --> 00:51:21,780
the Neolithic generally bows and arrows

1181
00:51:29,150 --> 00:51:24,180
came along and maybe the Mesolithic that

1182
00:51:31,910 --> 00:51:29,160
middle transition or the early Neolithic

1183
00:51:35,270 --> 00:51:31,920
yeah I'm I'm perfectly willing to think

1184
00:51:37,910 --> 00:51:35,280
that people had been able to invent them

1185
00:51:42,170 --> 00:51:37,920
bows and arrows way back into

1186
00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:42,180
Paleolithic times isn't that crazy 54

1187
00:51:47,589 --> 00:51:45,599
000 years ago to have

1188
00:51:52,190 --> 00:51:47,599
um a modern human

1189
00:51:54,589 --> 00:51:52,200
develop the concept of stringing up a

1190
00:51:57,770 --> 00:51:54,599
piece of wood sharpening you know a

1191
00:52:01,490 --> 00:51:57,780
sharpened Stone on an arrow and shooting

1192
00:52:03,710 --> 00:52:01,500
it that's a technical civilization

1193
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:03,720
yeah and I don't think that that

1194
00:52:08,930 --> 00:52:06,960
Discovery is so abstruse that it

1195
00:52:11,210 --> 00:52:08,940
couldn't be made over and over again all

1196
00:52:13,609 --> 00:52:11,220
you got to do is bend a stick you know

1197
00:52:16,670 --> 00:52:13,619
and and realize that the the the the

1198
00:52:17,750 --> 00:52:16,680
potential energy that's in that band

1199
00:52:21,049 --> 00:52:17,760
stick

1200
00:52:23,690 --> 00:52:21,059
you know to you know to think for tens

1201
00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:23,700
of thousands of years no humans with the

1202
00:52:28,309 --> 00:52:25,440
intelligence comparable to our own

1203
00:52:30,589 --> 00:52:28,319
wouldn't have figured out the next step

1204
00:52:32,990 --> 00:52:30,599
and and here's the thing

1205
00:52:35,150 --> 00:52:33,000
uh the Skeptics out there and the

1206
00:52:37,069 --> 00:52:35,160
debunkers that want to you know go

1207
00:52:38,890 --> 00:52:37,079
toe-to-toe with people like you and

1208
00:52:42,829 --> 00:52:38,900
myself

1209
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:42,839
yeah yeah exactly the Dogma that they

1210
00:52:50,569 --> 00:52:46,880
want us to believe is that Stone Age man

1211
00:52:53,569 --> 00:52:50,579
was until 5000 BC and up until that

1212
00:52:55,970 --> 00:52:53,579
point they were wearing animal skins and

1213
00:52:57,250 --> 00:52:55,980
and digging in the dirt for seeds for

1214
00:52:59,809 --> 00:52:57,260
food

1215
00:53:01,730 --> 00:52:59,819
there is no way that that is the case

1216
00:53:04,010 --> 00:53:01,740
certainly Gobekli Tepe ends that

1217
00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:04,020
argument right there but they don't want

1218
00:53:08,450 --> 00:53:06,000
to have anything to do with it and now

1219
00:53:10,910 --> 00:53:08,460
we've got bows and arrows 54 000 years

1220
00:53:12,349 --> 00:53:10,920
ago and they're gonna fight this one too

1221
00:53:15,530 --> 00:53:12,359
yeah and as I was mentioning

1222
00:53:17,450 --> 00:53:15,540
navigational skills now if you if you

1223
00:53:18,890 --> 00:53:17,460
got navigational skills there's an

1224
00:53:21,049 --> 00:53:18,900
implication of a whole of what other

1225
00:53:23,990 --> 00:53:21,059
skill set that goes along with that not

1226
00:53:27,049 --> 00:53:24,000
only being able to to build a c worthy

1227
00:53:29,510 --> 00:53:27,059
craft but to be able to handle ocean and

1228
00:53:32,030 --> 00:53:29,520
wind currents be able to perhaps

1229
00:53:33,890 --> 00:53:32,040
navigate by the Stars

1230
00:53:35,329 --> 00:53:33,900
so right there

1231
00:53:37,849 --> 00:53:35,339
if you've got somebody who can sail

1232
00:53:40,849 --> 00:53:37,859
hundreds of miles across the ocean well

1233
00:53:45,049 --> 00:53:40,859
there's that implies a a level of

1234
00:53:47,690 --> 00:53:45,059
technical skill that is beyond what the

1235
00:53:49,490 --> 00:53:47,700
conventional dogmas are willing to

1236
00:53:52,630 --> 00:53:49,500
accept

1237
00:53:55,970 --> 00:53:52,640
I I love that part of it too because

1238
00:53:58,309 --> 00:53:55,980
once that that line is crossed with

1239
00:53:59,870 --> 00:53:58,319
intelligence where you're looking at the

1240
00:54:02,870 --> 00:53:59,880
start you're not navigating with the

1241
00:54:05,930 --> 00:54:02,880
shoreline right I get that a canoe heck

1242
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:05,940
you can hang on to a log and and swim

1243
00:54:09,890 --> 00:54:07,200
through the water and navigate the

1244
00:54:12,890 --> 00:54:09,900
shoreline once you lose the shoreline

1245
00:54:14,569 --> 00:54:12,900
now you're dependent on that right above

1246
00:54:16,910 --> 00:54:14,579
you I don't care if it's the moon the

1247
00:54:19,849 --> 00:54:16,920
stars or whatever but you've got a basic

1248
00:54:21,470 --> 00:54:19,859
grasp of longitude and latitude to get

1249
00:54:23,930 --> 00:54:21,480
you in a Direction

1250
00:54:25,430 --> 00:54:23,940
so this is from a paper that just came

1251
00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:25,440
out this month

1252
00:54:32,510 --> 00:54:28,640
and it's entitled archaic hominins

1253
00:54:33,950 --> 00:54:32,520
maiden voyage in the Mediterranean Sea

1254
00:54:37,490 --> 00:54:33,960
um and here's what the abstract says

1255
00:54:39,589 --> 00:54:37,500
when archaic homonyms hominins started

1256
00:54:41,690 --> 00:54:39,599
sea Crossings and whether or not Seas

1257
00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:41,700
were barriers to their dispersal is

1258
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:42,960
highly debated

1259
00:54:47,569 --> 00:54:45,359
this paper attempts to provide insights

1260
00:54:50,569 --> 00:54:47,579
into these issues focusing on the Aegean

1261
00:54:54,650 --> 00:54:50,579
Sea the study shows that the central

1262
00:54:56,569 --> 00:54:54,660
Aegean island chain was insular

1263
00:54:58,910 --> 00:54:56,579
meaning they were Islands from the

1264
00:55:00,470 --> 00:54:58,920
surrounding land masses over the last

1265
00:55:03,349 --> 00:55:00,480
450

1266
00:55:07,490 --> 00:55:03,359
000 years and contests previously

1267
00:55:09,470 --> 00:55:07,500
available at GNC paleo geography I'm

1268
00:55:12,770 --> 00:55:09,480
going to skip over some of it but uh

1269
00:55:13,370 --> 00:55:12,780
basically the conclusion of it is that

1270
00:55:15,290 --> 00:55:13,380
um

1271
00:55:17,690 --> 00:55:15,300
a uh

1272
00:55:19,250 --> 00:55:17,700
okay yeah here we go Paleolithic

1273
00:55:21,049 --> 00:55:19,260
assemblages

1274
00:55:23,329 --> 00:55:21,059
so this is in the margin of the

1275
00:55:27,410 --> 00:55:23,339
Mediterranean Sea implies that

1276
00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:27,420
pre-sapiens pre-sapiens as early as 450

1277
00:55:32,270 --> 00:55:30,000
000 years before present were sea

1278
00:55:35,270 --> 00:55:32,280
crossing the Aegean Sea

1279
00:55:38,809 --> 00:55:35,280
a b were encouraged by the favorable

1280
00:55:42,290 --> 00:55:38,819
land Seascape configuration to attempt

1281
00:55:45,290 --> 00:55:42,300
these sea Crossings and C to spread to

1282
00:55:48,770 --> 00:55:45,300
the circum Mediterranean Basin sourcing

1283
00:55:50,990 --> 00:55:48,780
from the Levant following two converging

1284
00:55:53,150 --> 00:55:51,000
routes the one via the Aegean Sea and

1285
00:55:55,790 --> 00:55:53,160
the other the Bosphorus land bridge and

1286
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:55,800
the other via Gibraltar Straits so in

1287
00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:57,599
other words what that is saying is that

1288
00:56:01,910 --> 00:55:59,040
they had sailed all over the

1289
00:56:04,490 --> 00:56:01,920
Mediterranean Sea from one hand from the

1290
00:56:08,270 --> 00:56:04,500
eastern and to the Western End by 450

1291
00:56:10,430 --> 00:56:08,280
000 years ago now is that is that even

1292
00:56:13,190 --> 00:56:10,440
for somebody like you or me is that

1293
00:56:15,710 --> 00:56:13,200
pushing things or are you okay is that

1294
00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:15,720
still in no that's for me that's pushing

1295
00:56:20,150 --> 00:56:17,520
things from not what I would have been

1296
00:56:22,130 --> 00:56:20,160
willing to speculate but what what I

1297
00:56:24,349 --> 00:56:22,140
would have derived based it upon the

1298
00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:24,359
studies I've seen so far which would

1299
00:56:30,290 --> 00:56:27,599
suggest 50 to 70 000 years ago although

1300
00:56:33,109 --> 00:56:30,300
because that's typically when the

1301
00:56:37,730 --> 00:56:33,119
occupation of say Australia took place

1302
00:56:39,950 --> 00:56:37,740
uh around 50 000 years ago so that

1303
00:56:43,250 --> 00:56:39,960
implied that at least by then people

1304
00:56:46,849 --> 00:56:43,260
were able to navigate across the ocean

1305
00:56:48,829 --> 00:56:46,859
um let's uh uh uh Randall let's take our

1306
00:56:51,650 --> 00:56:48,839
break because when we come back I want

1307
00:56:53,630 --> 00:56:51,660
to continue where we are I do want to

1308
00:56:55,690 --> 00:56:53,640
talk about trans-oceiana cultures and I

1309
00:56:58,430 --> 00:56:55,700
want to talk about symbols and symbolism

1310
00:57:00,410 --> 00:56:58,440
associated with that so let's take our

1311
00:57:02,510 --> 00:57:00,420
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all right Welcome Back Fade to Black I

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00:59:48,650 --> 00:59:47,460
am your host Jimmy church I was just

1374
00:59:51,470 --> 00:59:48,660
looking at the chat there and somebody

1375
00:59:54,410 --> 00:59:51,480
said uh Chris Holmes wants his guitars

1376
00:59:59,569 --> 00:59:58,010
Chris uh man since we were kids I think

1377
01:00:01,849 --> 00:59:59,579
I first met him

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01:00:03,230 --> 01:00:01,859
first time he was at my house it was in

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01:00:06,230 --> 01:00:03,240
the mid 80s

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01:00:08,450 --> 01:00:06,240
and uh uh just been really really close

1381
01:00:10,730 --> 01:00:08,460
friends with him haven't seen him in a

1382
01:00:12,890 --> 01:00:10,740
while he moved to Europe and uh he's

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01:00:15,349 --> 01:00:12,900
been over there but uh I don't have any

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01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:15,359
of his guitars though I I should have

1385
01:00:21,829 --> 01:00:18,960
gotten one back in the day but I didn't

1386
01:00:35,390 --> 01:00:21,839
ah but I spent many nights uh with Chris

1387
01:00:42,170 --> 01:00:40,309
is watching his Studio his okay now I'm

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01:00:45,470 --> 01:00:42,180
back that was weird

1389
01:00:46,430 --> 01:00:45,480
I've never seen that happen Okay so

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01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:46,440
anyway

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01:00:51,410 --> 01:00:49,200
um Randall built uh this new studio and

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01:00:54,349 --> 01:00:51,420
when we were together uh a few months

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01:00:56,870 --> 01:00:54,359
ago he was just finishing it and and

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01:00:59,210 --> 01:00:56,880
showing me the photographs of of the the

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01:01:01,069 --> 01:00:59,220
construction of the progress of it and

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01:01:02,750 --> 01:01:01,079
looking at it today it is absolutely

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01:01:04,069 --> 01:01:02,760
beautiful so this is where he does his

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01:01:09,710 --> 01:01:04,079
podcast from

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01:01:12,049 --> 01:01:09,720
and uh uh you can go uh I think I've got

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01:01:14,270 --> 01:01:12,059
links below uh for Randall and his

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01:01:17,750 --> 01:01:14,280
website and you can check out his new

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01:01:19,190 --> 01:01:17,760
podcast that he he is currently doing

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01:01:21,049 --> 01:01:19,200
um all right I'm still waiting for

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01:01:25,730 --> 01:01:21,059
Randall to come back

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01:01:28,190 --> 01:01:25,740
and uh there you go uh what I was going

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01:01:30,410 --> 01:01:28,200
to say oh okay so here's the deal where

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01:01:32,450 --> 01:01:30,420
Randall comes back

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01:01:34,390 --> 01:01:32,460
Randall's a Freemason he's been to

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01:01:37,609 --> 01:01:34,400
Freemason for 30 plus years

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01:01:41,390 --> 01:01:37,619
and he understands symbols and symbolism

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01:01:44,930 --> 01:01:41,400
and of course geometry and and how all

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01:01:48,170 --> 01:01:44,940
of that applies to everything

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01:01:50,990 --> 01:01:48,180
um and and the ability to look at

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01:01:52,730 --> 01:01:51,000
something and identify it and you retain

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01:01:54,650 --> 01:01:52,740
that knowledge and then you're out

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01:01:57,109 --> 01:01:54,660
you're exploring the world and you're

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01:01:59,630 --> 01:01:57,119
seeing and then you notice

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01:02:02,990 --> 01:01:59,640
something somewhere else and it

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01:02:05,270 --> 01:02:03,000
shouldn't exist now from what he has

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01:02:08,390 --> 01:02:05,280
just said to me and I've often wondered

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01:02:11,049 --> 01:02:08,400
about this and I think we all have

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01:02:15,109 --> 01:02:11,059
um if we are talking about

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01:02:18,109 --> 01:02:15,119
transoceanic you know boats uh and and a

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01:02:19,670 --> 01:02:18,119
way to do this up to 450 000 years ago

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01:02:21,109 --> 01:02:19,680
which is a crazy number it's a crazy

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01:02:25,250 --> 01:02:21,119
thought

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01:02:29,690 --> 01:02:25,260
um that did they carry not only

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01:02:32,150 --> 01:02:29,700
languages and trade but uh written

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01:02:34,549 --> 01:02:32,160
languages and those symbols uh that

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01:02:37,789 --> 01:02:34,559
started to stretch across the world and

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01:02:40,130 --> 01:02:37,799
we can talk about say the the purses

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01:02:43,190 --> 01:02:40,140
right there's there's something that

1433
01:02:45,109 --> 01:02:43,200
sits out right there that I I just

1434
01:02:47,510 --> 01:02:45,119
wonder about these things and when we

1435
01:02:51,049 --> 01:02:47,520
look at some of you know the gospel

1436
01:02:53,870 --> 01:02:51,059
glyphs in Australia and you look at the

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01:02:57,289 --> 01:02:53,880
symbolism uh by the Mayans and and the

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01:02:59,390 --> 01:02:57,299
Aztecs and uh you know everywhere over

1439
01:03:03,829 --> 01:02:59,400
Central and South America and the

1440
01:03:06,049 --> 01:03:03,839
comparisons even uh Sumerian Sanskrit

1441
01:03:09,230 --> 01:03:06,059
um in Central and South America how did

1442
01:03:11,210 --> 01:03:09,240
it get there all the way from uh the

1443
01:03:12,829 --> 01:03:11,220
Persian Gulf it doesn't make any sense

1444
01:03:16,370 --> 01:03:12,839
how did it get there from Iraq and

1445
01:03:19,730 --> 01:03:16,380
Mesopotamia unless there was a culture

1446
01:03:20,809 --> 01:03:19,740
that had the ability to do that so

1447
01:03:24,650 --> 01:03:20,819
that's what we're going to talk about

1448
01:03:26,890 --> 01:03:24,660
next when Randall gets here and uh I'm

1449
01:03:30,410 --> 01:03:26,900
still waiting for Randall

1450
01:03:32,510 --> 01:03:30,420
oh man this is great this is great now

1451
01:03:34,609 --> 01:03:32,520
when he was talking oh oh uh let me jump

1452
01:03:37,789 --> 01:03:34,619
back uh I'm glad that I actually have

1453
01:03:41,270 --> 01:03:37,799
this uh opportunity to talk when I was

1454
01:03:44,630 --> 01:03:41,280
holding up earlier this is

1455
01:03:48,890 --> 01:03:44,640
a hacky sack that's an alien hacky sack

1456
01:03:53,569 --> 01:03:48,900
that I have but it's a really good uh uh

1457
01:03:56,569 --> 01:03:53,579
demonstrator of the displacement of

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01:03:58,609 --> 01:03:56,579
of earth when something happens so when

1459
01:04:02,030 --> 01:03:58,619
you squeeze it something else is going

1460
01:04:06,410 --> 01:04:02,040
to move right and so when we're talking

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01:04:10,130 --> 01:04:06,420
about the Earth that's what's going on

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01:04:13,910 --> 01:04:10,140
um I was taught in school

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01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:13,920
this was in eighth grade and we had a

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01:04:17,750 --> 01:04:15,839
class called Indiana history it took it

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01:04:20,289 --> 01:04:17,760
at Belzer Junior High School

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01:04:24,530 --> 01:04:20,299
on the north side of Indianapolis

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01:04:27,410 --> 01:04:24,540
here's Randall he's back and uh so I'm

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01:04:30,530 --> 01:04:27,420
I'm in this class uh Randall I'm talking

1469
01:04:34,910 --> 01:04:30,540
about how I learned about the glaciers

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01:04:36,770 --> 01:04:34,920
over North America and and I'm in I'm in

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01:04:39,069 --> 01:04:36,780
Indiana history class in eighth grade

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01:04:41,809 --> 01:04:39,079
and my teacher at that time

1473
01:04:43,430 --> 01:04:41,819
says and he says this to the class and

1474
01:04:45,890 --> 01:04:43,440
it was some I think I mentioned this to

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01:04:48,049 --> 01:04:45,900
you uh over lunch

1476
01:04:50,450 --> 01:04:48,059
um you may remember the conversation but

1477
01:04:54,349 --> 01:04:50,460
uh he says to the class remember I'm 12

1478
01:04:58,430 --> 01:04:54,359
years old right he goes Indiana

1479
01:05:01,190 --> 01:04:58,440
had two two miles of ice above it he

1480
01:05:03,829 --> 01:05:01,200
goes everybody look up and so we look up

1481
01:05:06,109 --> 01:05:03,839
and he goes now imagine two miles of ice

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01:05:09,049 --> 01:05:06,119
right now when you say that to a 12 year

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01:05:11,089 --> 01:05:09,059
old you're like what you can't even you

1484
01:05:14,210 --> 01:05:11,099
can't even have a concept and what he

1485
01:05:16,549 --> 01:05:14,220
had said to us and it was something that

1486
01:05:19,069 --> 01:05:16,559
I was taught I learned this and I never

1487
01:05:20,450 --> 01:05:19,079
forgot it all the way to our

1488
01:05:25,089 --> 01:05:20,460
conversation that we're having tonight

1489
01:05:27,170 --> 01:05:25,099
Randall he said half of Indiana is flat

1490
01:05:30,349 --> 01:05:27,180
half of it

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01:05:33,650 --> 01:05:30,359
is hilly that's where the glacier

1492
01:05:37,309 --> 01:05:33,660
stopped and it leveled out and now it's

1493
01:05:41,089 --> 01:05:37,319
a very uh basic way to teach and stuff

1494
01:05:43,430 --> 01:05:41,099
but you never forget that and so now

1495
01:05:45,650 --> 01:05:43,440
when you're driving around Indiana as

1496
01:05:47,210 --> 01:05:45,660
I'm as I'm getting older and I'm in the

1497
01:05:49,370 --> 01:05:47,220
flat part of Indiana then you go into

1498
01:05:51,289 --> 01:05:49,380
the hilly part I immediately start

1499
01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:51,299
thinking about what my eighth grade

1500
01:05:57,289 --> 01:05:54,000
teacher had said to me and I start to

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01:05:59,990 --> 01:05:57,299
picture everything that was up and above

1502
01:06:02,870 --> 01:06:00,000
us and this uh glacial mass that was

1503
01:06:04,970 --> 01:06:02,880
once over the top of uh North America

1504
01:06:07,370 --> 01:06:04,980
and that's what you do you learn this

1505
01:06:09,170 --> 01:06:07,380
you don't forget it and then I have a

1506
01:06:12,230 --> 01:06:09,180
conversation with you later and it

1507
01:06:15,230 --> 01:06:12,240
confirms what I've always just

1508
01:06:17,329 --> 01:06:15,240
contemplated and thought about growing

1509
01:06:20,329 --> 01:06:17,339
up uh what was over the top of the

1510
01:06:22,670 --> 01:06:20,339
United States so uh we ended before the

1511
01:06:24,890 --> 01:06:22,680
break uh we were talking about a trans

1512
01:06:28,010 --> 01:06:24,900
Oceanic cultures and you brought up this

1513
01:06:29,690 --> 01:06:28,020
number of 450 000 years ago

1514
01:06:33,770 --> 01:06:29,700
um you're a Freemason you've been to

1515
01:06:35,990 --> 01:06:33,780
Freemason for over 30 years and 40 years

1516
01:06:40,130 --> 01:06:36,000
I'm trying to make you sound young okay

1517
01:06:42,710 --> 01:06:40,140
45 years actually yeah of 45 years

1518
01:06:45,109 --> 01:06:42,720
um you understand symbols you know when

1519
01:06:47,089 --> 01:06:45,119
you see something in one country or one

1520
01:06:48,529 --> 01:06:47,099
state and you travel somewhere else and

1521
01:06:50,029 --> 01:06:48,539
you notice something similar you're

1522
01:06:52,549 --> 01:06:50,039
going to pick that up and think about it

1523
01:06:56,089 --> 01:06:52,559
because you this is something that you

1524
01:06:58,730 --> 01:06:56,099
study is it possible that these symbols

1525
01:07:00,349 --> 01:06:58,740
that are seen around the world are

1526
01:07:02,809 --> 01:07:00,359
because of exactly what you're talking

1527
01:07:05,809 --> 01:07:02,819
about we don't make an association of

1528
01:07:08,270 --> 01:07:05,819
something Egyptian in Australia not

1529
01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:08,280
necessarily but if there were things

1530
01:07:14,650 --> 01:07:11,280
cruising around the Mediterranean uh and

1531
01:07:17,630 --> 01:07:14,660
and and making these Adventures happen

1532
01:07:20,329 --> 01:07:17,640
that the symbolism in languages and

1533
01:07:23,089 --> 01:07:20,339
trade could have happened worldwide way

1534
01:07:25,609 --> 01:07:23,099
before we thought it could

1535
01:07:27,470 --> 01:07:25,619
well yes and I think that is something

1536
01:07:28,730 --> 01:07:27,480
we need to to be open to that

1537
01:07:30,589 --> 01:07:28,740
possibility

1538
01:07:33,170 --> 01:07:30,599
um that you know we could have been

1539
01:07:37,069 --> 01:07:33,180
looking at circumnavigation of the globe

1540
01:07:38,170 --> 01:07:37,079
you know Millennia before Magellan you

1541
01:07:41,569 --> 01:07:38,180
know uh

1542
01:07:43,730 --> 01:07:41,579
and you know

1543
01:07:47,329 --> 01:07:43,740
it seems that scholarship and academics

1544
01:07:49,250 --> 01:07:47,339
get so locked into their models that it

1545
01:07:51,829 --> 01:07:49,260
almost you know the old saying about you

1546
01:07:54,289 --> 01:07:51,839
know how scientific new scientific

1547
01:07:57,529 --> 01:07:54,299
knowledge is is finally accepted is when

1548
01:07:59,870 --> 01:07:57,539
the the Old Guard passes away you know

1549
01:08:01,609 --> 01:07:59,880
um there seems to be some of that there

1550
01:08:03,770 --> 01:08:01,619
is occasionally an apostasy where

1551
01:08:05,270 --> 01:08:03,780
somebody goes okay you know what I have

1552
01:08:07,490 --> 01:08:05,280
to change my way of thinking and it's

1553
01:08:08,690 --> 01:08:07,500
just too bad though that um there's not

1554
01:08:11,210 --> 01:08:08,700
more of that

1555
01:08:13,730 --> 01:08:11,220
um but yeah I think that again this goes

1556
01:08:16,490 --> 01:08:13,740
back to this the you know the term I

1557
01:08:20,090 --> 01:08:16,500
said earlier Geo mythology or Astro

1558
01:08:22,490 --> 01:08:20,100
mythology which is using symbols to

1559
01:08:24,650 --> 01:08:22,500
represent

1560
01:08:26,689 --> 01:08:24,660
um natural processes although they're

1561
01:08:29,570 --> 01:08:26,699
natural processes that are outside the

1562
01:08:31,010 --> 01:08:29,580
scope of our present perception just

1563
01:08:33,470 --> 01:08:31,020
because they haven't happened in our

1564
01:08:35,390 --> 01:08:33,480
time during which you know we've had

1565
01:08:39,189 --> 01:08:35,400
scientific documentation of natural

1566
01:08:41,630 --> 01:08:39,199
phenomena so what we have is cultural

1567
01:08:43,669 --> 01:08:41,640
interpretations of natural phenomena

1568
01:08:46,550 --> 01:08:43,679
that could come down to us through the

1569
01:08:48,470 --> 01:08:46,560
the medium of symbols and

1570
01:08:50,269 --> 01:08:48,480
as soon as we begin to recognize that

1571
01:08:51,829 --> 01:08:50,279
Behind These symbols it gets back to

1572
01:08:53,990 --> 01:08:51,839
that conversation we had in the first

1573
01:08:56,390 --> 01:08:54,000
part once you get to the reality behind

1574
01:08:59,209 --> 01:08:56,400
the symbols and you're asking okay well

1575
01:09:01,669 --> 01:08:59,219
what does this represent so

1576
01:09:03,890 --> 01:09:01,679
um at that point I think that number one

1577
01:09:06,169 --> 01:09:03,900
yes I think we're seeing symbols that

1578
01:09:09,829 --> 01:09:06,179
are an indication of natural phenomena

1579
01:09:13,269 --> 01:09:09,839
and also symbols that could point to the

1580
01:09:17,570 --> 01:09:13,279
existence of an ancient technology

1581
01:09:25,970 --> 01:09:23,090
that the plateau of Giza

1582
01:09:28,430 --> 01:09:25,980
was so perfectly I don't care what the

1583
01:09:30,650 --> 01:09:28,440
time scale is if it's 5 000 years ago or

1584
01:09:32,510 --> 01:09:30,660
the Great Pyramids 50 000 years old it

1585
01:09:36,229 --> 01:09:32,520
doesn't matter to me right

1586
01:09:40,430 --> 01:09:36,239
um but it is still perfectly level

1587
01:09:41,870 --> 01:09:40,440
and it's perfectly square and orientated

1588
01:09:46,130 --> 01:09:41,880
North

1589
01:09:47,930 --> 01:09:46,140
that nothing is shifted nothing so it's

1590
01:09:51,289 --> 01:09:47,940
obviously earthquake and natural

1591
01:09:53,510 --> 01:09:51,299
disaster proof as well as of all of the

1592
01:09:56,510 --> 01:09:53,520
other fantastic things that are

1593
01:09:58,790 --> 01:09:56,520
associated uh with its construction that

1594
01:10:01,070 --> 01:09:58,800
was impossible that Stone Age man did

1595
01:10:03,350 --> 01:10:01,080
this 5 000 years ago

1596
01:10:06,590 --> 01:10:03,360
yeah well I think there's the question

1597
01:10:08,450 --> 01:10:06,600
isn't it no I definitely think that we

1598
01:10:11,570 --> 01:10:08,460
need to be considering the possibility

1599
01:10:12,770 --> 01:10:11,580
that there are ancient Technologies and

1600
01:10:15,189 --> 01:10:12,780
scientific

1601
01:10:18,470 --> 01:10:15,199
knowledge that has been lost

1602
01:10:20,510 --> 01:10:18,480
and you know mainstream Academia seems

1603
01:10:23,030 --> 01:10:20,520
so adverse to that idea I don't know if

1604
01:10:25,729 --> 01:10:23,040
it's because of a kind of a a narcissism

1605
01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:25,739
or what it is to acknowledge or accept

1606
01:10:30,350 --> 01:10:28,800
even as a working hypothesis that there

1607
01:10:32,990 --> 01:10:30,360
may have been

1608
01:10:34,850 --> 01:10:33,000
things that we that ancient people knew

1609
01:10:36,410 --> 01:10:34,860
that we have forgotten and maybe not

1610
01:10:39,229 --> 01:10:36,420
even rediscovered

1611
01:10:42,590 --> 01:10:39,239
we certainly saw that in the attacks on

1612
01:10:46,910 --> 01:10:42,600
on Graham Hancock on Ancient apocalypse

1613
01:10:48,709 --> 01:10:46,920
um this this idea that you know we

1614
01:10:50,810 --> 01:10:48,719
shouldn't we we could actually devote a

1615
01:10:52,729 --> 01:10:50,820
whole show to just debunking the

1616
01:10:54,470 --> 01:10:52,739
debunkers

1617
01:10:58,070 --> 01:10:54,480
um and I don't know how much you've seen

1618
01:11:00,590 --> 01:10:58,080
of that but it's they totally divert

1619
01:11:04,310 --> 01:11:00,600
the facts and the the the the the the

1620
01:11:06,830 --> 01:11:04,320
the the legitimate questions that Graham

1621
01:11:09,169 --> 01:11:06,840
brought to the table by getting into all

1622
01:11:11,630 --> 01:11:09,179
of this conspirate dangerous conspiracy

1623
01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:11,640
theories oh that he's promoting white

1624
01:11:16,850 --> 01:11:14,880
supremacism racism all of that kind of

1625
01:11:18,590 --> 01:11:16,860
stuff and when you think about it Jimmy

1626
01:11:21,910 --> 01:11:18,600
now I've gone through

1627
01:11:24,830 --> 01:11:21,920
by about eight or ten of the so-called

1628
01:11:27,169 --> 01:11:24,840
debunkings by the critics some from

1629
01:11:30,110 --> 01:11:27,179
professional academics within the

1630
01:11:31,970 --> 01:11:30,120
profession others from journalists who

1631
01:11:35,870 --> 01:11:31,980
are I presume are getting their talking

1632
01:11:38,930 --> 01:11:35,880
points from these academics but in eight

1633
01:11:43,010 --> 01:11:38,940
or ten different

1634
01:11:45,709 --> 01:11:43,020
um critiques of ancient apocalypse over

1635
01:11:50,149 --> 01:11:45,719
and over again you saw the same

1636
01:11:51,950 --> 01:11:50,159
the same words the same phraseology

1637
01:11:53,630 --> 01:11:51,960
and as I'm reading I'm thinking wait a

1638
01:11:55,790 --> 01:11:53,640
minute now okay

1639
01:11:58,490 --> 01:11:55,800
I look at it and most of the people that

1640
01:12:00,830 --> 01:11:58,500
I look that I know watched it and and

1641
01:12:04,550 --> 01:12:00,840
and whether you did or didn't but I did

1642
01:12:06,229 --> 01:12:04,560
okay so where in there now Jimmy let me

1643
01:12:07,729 --> 01:12:06,239
ask you this question if you watch that

1644
01:12:09,890 --> 01:12:07,739
are you going to come away from that

1645
01:12:13,370 --> 01:12:09,900
thinking Graham Hancock's a white

1646
01:12:16,130 --> 01:12:13,380
supremacist no no no but how can it be

1647
01:12:17,450 --> 01:12:16,140
that 10 people independently journalists

1648
01:12:20,689 --> 01:12:17,460
and academics

1649
01:12:22,610 --> 01:12:20,699
watched it and all came away

1650
01:12:24,950 --> 01:12:22,620
saying that he's promoting white

1651
01:12:29,090 --> 01:12:24,960
supremacy well so that's what you do

1652
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:29,100
right you attack uh the individual but

1653
01:12:34,729 --> 01:12:31,440
you don't attack the subject matter and

1654
01:12:38,270 --> 01:12:34,739
you try to discredit him that way and

1655
01:12:41,270 --> 01:12:38,280
certainly you know going into what zone

1656
01:12:43,430 --> 01:12:41,280
really offends people white supremacists

1657
01:12:45,470 --> 01:12:43,440
right yeah that's my point here's my

1658
01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:45,480
point though my point is is yes that's

1659
01:12:50,810 --> 01:12:48,719
it's a huge red herring but it's it's an

1660
01:12:53,090 --> 01:12:50,820
argument from sort of like the reverse

1661
01:12:54,950 --> 01:12:53,100
of an argument from Authority and a

1662
01:12:57,050 --> 01:12:54,960
bunch of them said that well who are you

1663
01:13:00,050 --> 01:12:57,060
going to believe Graham Hancock or me

1664
01:13:01,850 --> 01:13:00,060
I'm a real archaeologist right well

1665
01:13:05,450 --> 01:13:01,860
here's the thing I don't think that

1666
01:13:07,669 --> 01:13:05,460
these people all read that and honestly

1667
01:13:09,770 --> 01:13:07,679
came away with the impression that

1668
01:13:11,810 --> 01:13:09,780
Graham's a white supremacist

1669
01:13:13,970 --> 01:13:11,820
I think that what we're seeing here is

1670
01:13:15,770 --> 01:13:13,980
evidence that they're all reading from

1671
01:13:18,649 --> 01:13:15,780
the same script

1672
01:13:21,050 --> 01:13:18,659
or at least the same talking points

1673
01:13:24,110 --> 01:13:21,060
because they you can't tell me that

1674
01:13:26,270 --> 01:13:24,120
you're independently these people are

1675
01:13:28,490 --> 01:13:26,280
gonna all they may

1676
01:13:31,610 --> 01:13:28,500
you know they may have grave objections

1677
01:13:33,169 --> 01:13:31,620
to the ideas but where do you derive

1678
01:13:34,669 --> 01:13:33,179
from there that this is promoting white

1679
01:13:37,790 --> 01:13:34,679
supremacy

1680
01:13:39,169 --> 01:13:37,800
it's not there so it had to have come

1681
01:13:40,610 --> 01:13:39,179
from somewhere though and you're not

1682
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:40,620
going to get all of these critics

1683
01:13:44,870 --> 01:13:43,440
uniformly invoking white supremacy

1684
01:13:47,209 --> 01:13:44,880
unless they're reading from the same

1685
01:13:49,250 --> 01:13:47,219
script which then raises the question in

1686
01:13:50,330 --> 01:13:49,260
my mind of what's the origin of this

1687
01:13:55,130 --> 01:13:50,340
script

1688
01:13:57,410 --> 01:13:55,140
okay the same this is this is this is

1689
01:14:00,649 --> 01:13:57,420
the problem with anybody that wants to

1690
01:14:01,850 --> 01:14:00,659
step up and say I'm an I'm a geologist I

1691
01:14:03,770 --> 01:14:01,860
know what I'm talking about I'm an

1692
01:14:05,750 --> 01:14:03,780
archaeologist I'm an anthropologist I

1693
01:14:10,189 --> 01:14:05,760
know what I'm doing he's not the the

1694
01:14:12,590 --> 01:14:10,199
problem with that is uh going back to uh

1695
01:14:17,090 --> 01:14:12,600
our conversation about continental drift

1696
01:14:20,030 --> 01:14:17,100
right that was completely argued and if

1697
01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:20,040
we talk about Galileo okay we talk about

1698
01:14:25,970 --> 01:14:23,040
that too as well in Copernicus so as

1699
01:14:28,209 --> 01:14:25,980
soon as you are outside of the accepted

1700
01:14:31,430 --> 01:14:28,219
box that you're supposed to remain in

1701
01:14:33,830 --> 01:14:31,440
suddenly you're you're crazy town and

1702
01:14:37,669 --> 01:14:33,840
they're going to attack you and and and

1703
01:14:41,030 --> 01:14:37,679
and and fight this they the the reason

1704
01:14:44,149 --> 01:14:41,040
why continental drift is accepted today

1705
01:14:47,149 --> 01:14:44,159
is because somebody and this went on for

1706
01:14:50,750 --> 01:14:47,159
a couple hundred years I mean uh the the

1707
01:14:54,110 --> 01:14:50,760
last push was 1955 1958 but

1708
01:14:56,450 --> 01:14:54,120
it was fought and the reason why it is

1709
01:14:58,550 --> 01:14:56,460
here today the reason why the sun is at

1710
01:15:00,590 --> 01:14:58,560
the center of our solar system is

1711
01:15:02,390 --> 01:15:00,600
because somebody thought outside of the

1712
01:15:05,090 --> 01:15:02,400
box that they were supposed to be locked

1713
01:15:07,490 --> 01:15:05,100
into so when an anthropologist or an

1714
01:15:11,149 --> 01:15:07,500
archaeologist or some historian or

1715
01:15:13,729 --> 01:15:11,159
geologist is going to fight this I I'm

1716
01:15:15,950 --> 01:15:13,739
like what happened to you what happened

1717
01:15:17,930 --> 01:15:15,960
to your profession you're supposed to

1718
01:15:21,410 --> 01:15:17,940
ask questions and think differently

1719
01:15:24,950 --> 01:15:21,420
science is nothing but Randall a series

1720
01:15:27,290 --> 01:15:24,960
of Corrections that's all it is it's a

1721
01:15:30,169 --> 01:15:27,300
series of crime somebody was wrong at

1722
01:15:33,410 --> 01:15:30,179
one point and was corrected a physicist

1723
01:15:35,990 --> 01:15:33,420
today his his algorithms that they're

1724
01:15:38,090 --> 01:15:36,000
working on are going to be modified and

1725
01:15:40,250 --> 01:15:38,100
disproven in the future right they're

1726
01:15:42,830 --> 01:15:40,260
going to be wrong and that's just the

1727
01:15:44,689 --> 01:15:42,840
way science works so when I hear that

1728
01:15:47,630 --> 01:15:44,699
argument today if I'm an encounter

1729
01:15:51,470 --> 01:15:47,640
that's what I'm going to counter with or

1730
01:15:54,110 --> 01:15:51,480
you know I felt bad for Graham uh I am

1731
01:15:56,930 --> 01:15:54,120
definitely got into a defensive posture

1732
01:15:59,390 --> 01:15:56,940
I don't know if he needed to do that you

1733
01:16:01,729 --> 01:15:59,400
know and you want to fight your critics

1734
01:16:04,430 --> 01:16:01,739
right I get that but maybe you just shut

1735
01:16:07,070 --> 01:16:04,440
up and let these idiots uh sound stupid

1736
01:16:08,990 --> 01:16:07,080
all on their own and and you don't have

1737
01:16:11,030 --> 01:16:09,000
to defend yourself all you're doing is

1738
01:16:13,490 --> 01:16:11,040
thinking outside of the box and asking

1739
01:16:15,590 --> 01:16:13,500
questions and I'm not wrong in that

1740
01:16:17,630 --> 01:16:15,600
right and that's essentially what he was

1741
01:16:19,610 --> 01:16:17,640
doing and a couple of things that I've

1742
01:16:21,709 --> 01:16:19,620
written and said about that I'm saying

1743
01:16:24,169 --> 01:16:21,719
you know it's it's it's kind of like the

1744
01:16:26,930 --> 01:16:24,179
the the the moral of the Holy Grail

1745
01:16:29,330 --> 01:16:26,940
story which is that you know Percival or

1746
01:16:31,250 --> 01:16:29,340
whoever the protagonist was is out on

1747
01:16:32,870 --> 01:16:31,260
this multi-year quest for the Grail

1748
01:16:35,510 --> 01:16:32,880
which is the only thing which is the

1749
01:16:39,290 --> 01:16:35,520
antidote to Healing not only the alien

1750
01:16:42,110 --> 01:16:39,300
ailing King but the uh the Wasteland and

1751
01:16:44,810 --> 01:16:42,120
he comes upon the fisher king

1752
01:16:46,850 --> 01:16:44,820
this mysterious fisherman fishing in the

1753
01:16:49,310 --> 01:16:46,860
river who guides him to the castle

1754
01:16:52,370 --> 01:16:49,320
corbanic where he goes and sees this

1755
01:16:54,050 --> 01:16:52,380
Sumptuous display because he lets the

1756
01:16:56,630 --> 01:16:54,060
fisher king know that he's on this quest

1757
01:16:59,630 --> 01:16:56,640
for the Grail so he goes to the castle

1758
01:17:02,450 --> 01:16:59,640
and he's treated you know like royalties

1759
01:17:04,550 --> 01:17:02,460
led into a gigantic great Banquet Hall

1760
01:17:07,070 --> 01:17:04,560
he's seated down with Sumptuous food

1761
01:17:10,910 --> 01:17:07,080
brought before him and and then there's

1762
01:17:13,790 --> 01:17:10,920
this pageant that that proceeds to

1763
01:17:16,370 --> 01:17:13,800
um unfold in front of him of you know

1764
01:17:20,209 --> 01:17:16,380
these young men and maidens carrying

1765
01:17:22,610 --> 01:17:20,219
these various objects uh Maiden

1766
01:17:26,270 --> 01:17:22,620
including a resplendent

1767
01:17:28,490 --> 01:17:26,280
uh Grail and you go through this and and

1768
01:17:30,890 --> 01:17:28,500
he's having these incredible

1769
01:17:33,410 --> 01:17:30,900
um experiences looking at this at the

1770
01:17:35,390 --> 01:17:33,420
presentation of this symbolism that that

1771
01:17:38,030 --> 01:17:35,400
that is occurring in front of his eyes

1772
01:17:40,010 --> 01:17:38,040
and he's got all kind of what is this

1773
01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:40,020
what does this mean I know everything

1774
01:17:43,850 --> 01:17:42,480
tells me every cell in my body tells me

1775
01:17:45,950 --> 01:17:43,860
that there's a meaning here but what is

1776
01:17:47,870 --> 01:17:45,960
this meaning he did not answer the

1777
01:17:49,669 --> 01:17:47,880
question because when he first began to

1778
01:17:51,950 --> 01:17:49,679
set out on his quest to note the

1779
01:17:54,590 --> 01:17:51,960
connection between the word Quest and

1780
01:17:57,950 --> 01:17:54,600
question right because when you ask

1781
01:18:01,550 --> 01:17:57,960
questions that's what leads you on the

1782
01:18:04,010 --> 01:18:01,560
quest right for the truth for reality so

1783
01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:04,020
when he was beginning his quest he

1784
01:18:10,669 --> 01:18:06,960
apprenticed under an Old Knight who told

1785
01:18:12,410 --> 01:18:10,679
him and basically can inculcated him in

1786
01:18:15,110 --> 01:18:12,420
the idea that he shouldn't speak

1787
01:18:17,990 --> 01:18:15,120
frivolous frivolously he you know he

1788
01:18:21,530 --> 01:18:18,000
should mostly mind his his tongue and

1789
01:18:24,229 --> 01:18:21,540
listen acutely but not to be given into

1790
01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:24,239
lots of chatter in discussion and talk

1791
01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:26,880
and stuff because that is not the nature

1792
01:18:31,310 --> 01:18:29,280
of a knight to do that

1793
01:18:34,070 --> 01:18:31,320
so he's remembering this admonition of

1794
01:18:36,410 --> 01:18:34,080
the the old Knight while he's seeing all

1795
01:18:40,010 --> 01:18:36,420
of this and it makes him hesitate to ask

1796
01:18:43,370 --> 01:18:40,020
the questions that are seem to be so

1797
01:18:47,270 --> 01:18:43,380
begging to be asked well then it's over

1798
01:18:51,350 --> 01:18:47,280
with and he goes to sleep and he wakes

1799
01:18:53,570 --> 01:18:51,360
up the whole castle is abandoned looking

1800
01:18:55,850 --> 01:18:53,580
like as if it had not even been occupied

1801
01:18:58,490 --> 01:18:55,860
in centuries it's you know instead of

1802
01:19:00,050 --> 01:18:58,500
resplendently decorated with Sumptuous

1803
01:19:03,649 --> 01:19:00,060
you know

1804
01:19:05,870 --> 01:19:03,659
curtains and carvings and people filled

1805
01:19:09,110 --> 01:19:05,880
with life and food everywhere and

1806
01:19:10,370 --> 01:19:09,120
merriment it's completely abandoned it's

1807
01:19:13,550 --> 01:19:10,380
dark

1808
01:19:15,770 --> 01:19:13,560
spider webs and dust and so he gets up

1809
01:19:19,130 --> 01:19:15,780
and he wanders out and it's still the

1810
01:19:21,189 --> 01:19:19,140
Wasteland and this old hay come

1811
01:19:23,750 --> 01:19:21,199
shrieking at him

1812
01:19:26,750 --> 01:19:23,760
accusing him of really being stupid

1813
01:19:28,450 --> 01:19:26,760
because you just sat there and they

1814
01:19:32,990 --> 01:19:28,460
presented this whole

1815
01:19:35,689 --> 01:19:33,000
Panorama to you designed so that you

1816
01:19:38,689 --> 01:19:35,699
would ask the fundamental questions of

1817
01:19:39,890 --> 01:19:38,699
what this means and in the answers to

1818
01:19:41,570 --> 01:19:39,900
those questions you would have

1819
01:19:43,070 --> 01:19:41,580
understood the Grail and you would have

1820
01:19:45,290 --> 01:19:43,080
been able to heal the king in the

1821
01:19:47,689 --> 01:19:45,300
Wasteland but now because you sat there

1822
01:19:50,510 --> 01:19:47,699
without saying something the Wasteland

1823
01:19:52,490 --> 01:19:50,520
is going to continue on the king is not

1824
01:19:54,050 --> 01:19:52,500
going to get well and that was sort of

1825
01:19:55,850 --> 01:19:54,060
the whole moral of the story yes it's

1826
01:19:58,970 --> 01:19:55,860
good to bite your tongue but there are

1827
01:20:02,630 --> 01:19:58,980
times when you really need to ask

1828
01:20:04,610 --> 01:20:02,640
questions and my whole point about what

1829
01:20:06,709 --> 01:20:04,620
I took my take away from so much that we

1830
01:20:08,030 --> 01:20:06,719
see going on now and this was manifest

1831
01:20:10,310 --> 01:20:08,040
in

1832
01:20:11,570 --> 01:20:10,320
um ancient apocalypse is that no we're

1833
01:20:14,330 --> 01:20:11,580
not allowed

1834
01:20:17,390 --> 01:20:14,340
anymore to ask questions if those

1835
01:20:20,450 --> 01:20:17,400
questions May challenge the prevailing

1836
01:20:22,669 --> 01:20:20,460
dogmas and Paradigm and what that really

1837
01:20:24,770 --> 01:20:22,679
tells me Jimmy is that these people

1838
01:20:26,330 --> 01:20:24,780
these Defenders of the Orthodoxy are

1839
01:20:27,649 --> 01:20:26,340
really getting desperate

1840
01:20:29,750 --> 01:20:27,659
they're getting desperate because

1841
01:20:31,870 --> 01:20:29,760
they've concocted a whole house of cards

1842
01:20:34,790 --> 01:20:31,880
over the last few decades

1843
01:20:36,649 --> 01:20:34,800
that encompasses all of so much that

1844
01:20:38,510 --> 01:20:36,659
we've seen come down and I'm not going

1845
01:20:42,530 --> 01:20:38,520
to get off into

1846
01:20:44,090 --> 01:20:42,540
the covet and Russian collusion and we

1847
01:20:46,189 --> 01:20:44,100
could start a list and it would go on

1848
01:20:47,570 --> 01:20:46,199
and on and on yeah but there's this

1849
01:20:49,970 --> 01:20:47,580
whole narrative

1850
01:20:52,310 --> 01:20:49,980
that's been concocted and is now being

1851
01:20:54,290 --> 01:20:52,320
pushed down our throats through various

1852
01:20:56,090 --> 01:20:54,300
means you know whatever you want to call

1853
01:20:58,490 --> 01:20:56,100
it you know

1854
01:21:01,970 --> 01:20:58,500
um but it it's like a multi-headed

1855
01:21:04,490 --> 01:21:01,980
monster it's in pervading Academia in

1856
01:21:07,550 --> 01:21:04,500
our schools and the core protocracy and

1857
01:21:09,590 --> 01:21:07,560
the government but it's all very flimsy

1858
01:21:13,189 --> 01:21:09,600
it's the whole construct is a house of

1859
01:21:16,010 --> 01:21:13,199
cards and interestingly in some of the

1860
01:21:18,050 --> 01:21:16,020
um in some of the the the the debunkings

1861
01:21:20,570 --> 01:21:18,060
that I saw and I I could actually I

1862
01:21:21,830 --> 01:21:20,580
won't pull them up now but in my some of

1863
01:21:24,950 --> 01:21:21,840
the written stuff I've done I've

1864
01:21:27,470 --> 01:21:24,960
actually quoted saying that if you

1865
01:21:29,689 --> 01:21:27,480
accept these dangerous conspiracy

1866
01:21:31,910 --> 01:21:29,699
theories that are being promoted by

1867
01:21:34,550 --> 01:21:31,920
white supremacists Graham Hancock well

1868
01:21:36,110 --> 01:21:34,560
you might believe that doctors are lying

1869
01:21:39,350 --> 01:21:36,120
to you or you might believe that

1870
01:21:40,970 --> 01:21:39,360
politicians are lying to you and I said

1871
01:21:45,290 --> 01:21:40,980
yeah there's the rub right there there

1872
01:21:47,450 --> 01:21:45,300
it is I read I read I read that and uh I

1873
01:21:49,669 --> 01:21:47,460
was completely offended by it and here

1874
01:21:51,610 --> 01:21:49,679
but here you talk about a rub here's the

1875
01:21:56,050 --> 01:21:51,620
here's the real rub

1876
01:21:57,610 --> 01:21:56,060
that uh up until

1877
01:22:01,550 --> 01:21:57,620
1991

1878
01:22:03,169 --> 01:22:01,560
1992 the Dogma I keep saying Dogma

1879
01:22:05,149 --> 01:22:03,179
because man you repeat something enough

1880
01:22:06,590 --> 01:22:05,159
people just believe it right and it

1881
01:22:09,250 --> 01:22:06,600
doesn't matter where it comes from or

1882
01:22:13,430 --> 01:22:09,260
what it's about but the Dogma in history

1883
01:22:17,990 --> 01:22:13,440
was that there was nothing before Egypt

1884
01:22:20,570 --> 01:22:18,000
or Mesopotamia 3000 BC was it there's no

1885
01:22:23,410 --> 01:22:20,580
discussion here you guys are cranks and

1886
01:22:26,290 --> 01:22:23,420
crack pods right and that what happens

1887
01:22:30,950 --> 01:22:26,300
go Beckley tappy happens

1888
01:22:33,950 --> 01:22:30,960
seven thousand years before Giza

1889
01:22:35,990 --> 01:22:33,960
12 000 years ago we've got Gobekli Tempe

1890
01:22:39,050 --> 01:22:36,000
and it may be even much older than that

1891
01:22:43,370 --> 01:22:39,060
but let's just go with that number and

1892
01:22:46,850 --> 01:22:43,380
that wasn't enough to change things it

1893
01:22:48,890 --> 01:22:46,860
wasn't oh that's an anomaly ah that

1894
01:22:51,649 --> 01:22:48,900
Stone Age man that was actually pretty

1895
01:22:55,669 --> 01:22:51,659
clever uh no dude that's seven thousand

1896
01:22:58,610 --> 01:22:55,679
years before uh gisa so don't change the

1897
01:23:01,370 --> 01:22:58,620
story now but that's an example of that

1898
01:23:03,470 --> 01:23:01,380
you can give them like Graham Hancock

1899
01:23:06,709 --> 01:23:03,480
with these Skeptics you turn around

1900
01:23:09,110 --> 01:23:06,719
whether it's kadabadang or or any of

1901
01:23:10,430 --> 01:23:09,120
these areas that appear to be much older

1902
01:23:12,709 --> 01:23:10,440
you turn around and you present

1903
01:23:15,350 --> 01:23:12,719
something like Gobekli Tepe and that's

1904
01:23:18,530 --> 01:23:15,360
not good enough the Skeptics their

1905
01:23:20,530 --> 01:23:18,540
answer is nah that's it that's all that

1906
01:23:23,570 --> 01:23:20,540
they have to go on nah

1907
01:23:25,910 --> 01:23:23,580
they don't counter with anything well

1908
01:23:29,510 --> 01:23:25,920
yeah that's it and if you read the the

1909
01:23:31,970 --> 01:23:29,520
attacks on Ancient apocalypse as I as I

1910
01:23:35,149 --> 01:23:31,980
have line by line you know you know

1911
01:23:38,570 --> 01:23:35,159
taking them apart and and looking at

1912
01:23:40,370 --> 01:23:38,580
them uh line by line it's what strikes

1913
01:23:42,530 --> 01:23:40,380
you is the absence of anything

1914
01:23:44,390 --> 01:23:42,540
substantial there's nothing there

1915
01:23:47,570 --> 01:23:44,400
that's why they have just their fallback

1916
01:23:49,850 --> 01:23:47,580
strategy is name calling in red herrings

1917
01:23:51,229 --> 01:23:49,860
and in you know every logical fallacy in

1918
01:23:54,229 --> 01:23:51,239
the book

1919
01:23:57,050 --> 01:23:54,239
you know um uh you know I know Graham

1920
01:24:00,410 --> 01:23:57,060
you know Graham and he's got a very

1921
01:24:03,709 --> 01:24:00,420
strong personality and and that's what I

1922
01:24:06,050 --> 01:24:03,719
love and enjoy about him he doesn't Bend

1923
01:24:08,630 --> 01:24:06,060
he's out there asking questions and he's

1924
01:24:11,510 --> 01:24:08,640
not going to tap out I don't know why

1925
01:24:14,030 --> 01:24:11,520
the attacks on him what what did they

1926
01:24:16,790 --> 01:24:14,040
expect Graham to do he's not the guy to

1927
01:24:19,390 --> 01:24:16,800
tap out he's not that guy they're

1928
01:24:22,130 --> 01:24:19,400
attacking the wrong guy

1929
01:24:23,950 --> 01:24:22,140
he's not going to tap out to

1930
01:24:27,649 --> 01:24:23,960
characterize it all that he's being

1931
01:24:30,530 --> 01:24:27,659
mean-spirited and oh it's like see now

1932
01:24:32,450 --> 01:24:30,540
the they're playing the victim here

1933
01:24:36,050 --> 01:24:32,460
that's what they're doing oh we're being

1934
01:24:38,630 --> 01:24:36,060
attacked unfairly by Graham Hancock well

1935
01:24:41,030 --> 01:24:38,640
no that's you know BS I mean they've

1936
01:24:43,490 --> 01:24:41,040
been heaping abuse upon him for decades

1937
01:24:46,189 --> 01:24:43,500
now now that he gets that he gets

1938
01:24:48,590 --> 01:24:46,199
annoyed and fights back oh now suddenly

1939
01:24:51,649 --> 01:24:48,600
they're the victims and that comes

1940
01:24:52,850 --> 01:24:51,659
through very clearly right the crowd app

1941
01:24:55,370 --> 01:24:52,860
that they wrote

1942
01:24:58,189 --> 01:24:55,380
uh in the aftermath of of ancient

1943
01:25:01,010 --> 01:24:58,199
apocalypse it's it's it's absurd it's

1944
01:25:02,810 --> 01:25:01,020
almost a comedy in a way but but you

1945
01:25:05,510 --> 01:25:02,820
know the there are implications here the

1946
01:25:08,630 --> 01:25:05,520
implications are that there's there's uh

1947
01:25:13,450 --> 01:25:08,640
organized cabals of of people that don't

1948
01:25:18,830 --> 01:25:16,610
what's the danger in that though you

1949
01:25:21,169 --> 01:25:18,840
know I mean I I want to hear your answer

1950
01:25:23,930 --> 01:25:21,179
what is the date what are they so afraid

1951
01:25:26,990 --> 01:25:23,940
of I mean even in the Catholic church

1952
01:25:29,330 --> 01:25:27,000
and the Vatican with Galileo what was it

1953
01:25:32,209 --> 01:25:29,340
that they were so afraid of it doesn't

1954
01:25:34,550 --> 01:25:32,219
change anything right it doesn't nothing

1955
01:25:37,070 --> 01:25:34,560
changes we're just learning and moving

1956
01:25:39,649 --> 01:25:37,080
forward what's the danger of asking

1957
01:25:42,830 --> 01:25:39,659
questions I think that it probably gets

1958
01:25:45,530 --> 01:25:42,840
down to ultimately politics but you know

1959
01:25:48,169 --> 01:25:45,540
the idea that we have these entrenched

1960
01:25:51,470 --> 01:25:48,179
hierarchies of authority you know and if

1961
01:25:53,149 --> 01:25:51,480
you know hey I am the tenured

1962
01:25:55,490 --> 01:25:53,159
archaeologist here who are you going to

1963
01:25:58,610 --> 01:25:55,500
believe me or Graham Hancock now the

1964
01:26:00,770 --> 01:25:58,620
bizarre thing to me is like oh they're

1965
01:26:02,750 --> 01:26:00,780
gonna oh the experts say this and that

1966
01:26:05,270 --> 01:26:02,760
they constantly make these references to

1967
01:26:07,250 --> 01:26:05,280
the in the attacks on Ancient apocalypse

1968
01:26:09,590 --> 01:26:07,260
constantly make references to the

1969
01:26:11,390 --> 01:26:09,600
experts right and I'm thinking okay and

1970
01:26:13,669 --> 01:26:11,400
then one of the experts is this British

1971
01:26:17,149 --> 01:26:13,679
archaeologist him as an example right

1972
01:26:20,270 --> 01:26:17,159
he's done uh you know some some studies

1973
01:26:23,149 --> 01:26:20,280
on on uh I think it was uh

1974
01:26:25,850 --> 01:26:23,159
well Greece and maybe Roman age uh

1975
01:26:28,610 --> 01:26:25,860
Bronze Age Rome I I forget exactly but

1976
01:26:31,370 --> 01:26:28,620
you know you can you can for example as

1977
01:26:33,770 --> 01:26:31,380
an archaeologist or a geologist you can

1978
01:26:36,410 --> 01:26:33,780
take one Strat or one outcrop or one

1979
01:26:37,669 --> 01:26:36,420
site and you can spend years studying

1980
01:26:39,590 --> 01:26:37,679
that one site

1981
01:26:41,450 --> 01:26:39,600
like I I know somebody who's an

1982
01:26:44,930 --> 01:26:41,460
archaeologist that has spent years

1983
01:26:46,729 --> 01:26:44,940
studying Civil War sites now he can tell

1984
01:26:48,290 --> 01:26:46,739
you all kinds of details and things

1985
01:26:49,729 --> 01:26:48,300
about you know whatever maybe the Battle

1986
01:26:52,070 --> 01:26:49,739
of what happened at the Battle of Bull

1987
01:26:54,530 --> 01:26:52,080
Run and so forth and he's a degree in

1988
01:26:58,189 --> 01:26:54,540
archaeologist does that automatically

1989
01:27:01,189 --> 01:26:58,199
make him an expert on the Paleolithic

1990
01:27:04,010 --> 01:27:01,199
no now take Graham what has he done for

1991
01:27:06,350 --> 01:27:04,020
more than 30 years he's traveled to what

1992
01:27:09,290 --> 01:27:06,360
probably close to 100 countries he's

1993
01:27:13,250 --> 01:27:09,300
read thousands of scientific papers he's

1994
01:27:15,950 --> 01:27:13,260
he's interviewed probably hundreds of

1995
01:27:18,890 --> 01:27:15,960
experts Authority scientists Scholars

1996
01:27:21,530 --> 01:27:18,900
academics ranging all the way from The

1997
01:27:23,450 --> 01:27:21,540
Fringe Point of View to the to the you

1998
01:27:24,709 --> 01:27:23,460
know entrenched Orthodoxy and everything

1999
01:27:27,649 --> 01:27:24,719
in between

2000
01:27:31,030 --> 01:27:27,659
now so he's been studying this these

2001
01:27:33,290 --> 01:27:31,040
questions of uh you know uh

2002
01:27:37,010 --> 01:27:33,300
pre-cataclysmic civilization the

2003
01:27:39,110 --> 01:27:37,020
cataclysms themselves and so on

2004
01:27:40,970 --> 01:27:39,120
the fact of the matter is that when it

2005
01:27:43,729 --> 01:27:40,980
comes down to looking at the younger

2006
01:27:45,530 --> 01:27:43,739
driest transition and the Millennia that

2007
01:27:46,610 --> 01:27:45,540
preceded that and what may or may not

2008
01:27:49,310 --> 01:27:46,620
have happened

2009
01:27:51,649 --> 01:27:49,320
Graham Hancock is the expert

2010
01:27:53,750 --> 01:27:51,659
he knows far more about this than the

2011
01:27:54,950 --> 01:27:53,760
people that are coming on board and you

2012
01:27:55,610 --> 01:27:54,960
know all about who you're going to

2013
01:27:57,950 --> 01:27:55,620
believe

2014
01:27:59,390 --> 01:27:57,960
Graham Hancock or the real archaeologist

2015
01:28:02,090 --> 01:27:59,400
me

2016
01:28:03,590 --> 01:28:02,100
well it's just it's laughable Jimmy it

2017
01:28:06,169 --> 01:28:03,600
is laughable

2018
01:28:08,510 --> 01:28:06,179
the simple fact is is that nobody's

2019
01:28:11,390 --> 01:28:08,520
going to know more about that than

2020
01:28:12,410 --> 01:28:11,400
Graham himself he is the expert

2021
01:28:14,030 --> 01:28:12,420
right

2022
01:28:17,570 --> 01:28:14,040
so now they're bringing in these people

2023
01:28:18,830 --> 01:28:17,580
who probably know only marginally about

2024
01:28:21,110 --> 01:28:18,840
the things that Graham's been

2025
01:28:23,330 --> 01:28:21,120
investigating for 30 years and they're

2026
01:28:24,709 --> 01:28:23,340
being you know trucked in to become the

2027
01:28:27,410 --> 01:28:24,719
debunkers

2028
01:28:28,850 --> 01:28:27,420
and it's to anybody who is thinking who

2029
01:28:31,010 --> 01:28:28,860
has a little bit of a knowledge and

2030
01:28:34,669 --> 01:28:31,020
awareness about these things it's

2031
01:28:37,370 --> 01:28:34,679
laughable it's so absurd in in utterly

2032
01:28:40,129 --> 01:28:37,380
superficial and without substance but

2033
01:28:42,590 --> 01:28:40,139
given the climate the intellectual

2034
01:28:44,629 --> 01:28:42,600
climate in America today anyway you know

2035
01:28:46,490 --> 01:28:44,639
we've you know since you and I were

2036
01:28:47,149 --> 01:28:46,500
young Jimmy things have dumbed down a

2037
01:28:49,490 --> 01:28:47,159
lot

2038
01:28:52,189 --> 01:28:49,500
the the status of Education in this

2039
01:28:54,290 --> 01:28:52,199
country has gone into serious decline

2040
01:28:55,729 --> 01:28:54,300
and you know we're getting kids coming

2041
01:28:57,970 --> 01:28:55,739
out of high school and going into

2042
01:29:01,129 --> 01:28:57,980
college now that have basically no

2043
01:29:03,169 --> 01:29:01,139
comprehension of history or or the

2044
01:29:05,350 --> 01:29:03,179
scientific method or critical thinking

2045
01:29:08,570 --> 01:29:05,360
any of that kind of stuff

2046
01:29:10,790 --> 01:29:08,580
and it's sad but somehow there has to be

2047
01:29:12,470 --> 01:29:10,800
a correction in our course correction

2048
01:29:16,790 --> 01:29:12,480
somewhere very soon

2049
01:29:20,270 --> 01:29:16,800
when we when we just go with the

2050
01:29:23,810 --> 01:29:20,280
accepted it's not my timeline but if we

2051
01:29:28,330 --> 01:29:23,820
go with the accepted egyptologist uh

2052
01:29:32,030 --> 01:29:28,340
timeline that is in in the books then

2053
01:29:33,290 --> 01:29:32,040
the Great Pyramid uh in that complex

2054
01:29:35,750 --> 01:29:33,300
which you know we can go to the band

2055
01:29:38,270 --> 01:29:35,760
pyramid and we go to the Sakara and dust

2056
01:29:42,850 --> 01:29:38,280
Shore and and talk about it but the the

2057
01:29:45,770 --> 01:29:42,860
accepted timeline is 2700 BC right

2058
01:29:47,750 --> 01:29:45,780
27.50 for the bent pyramid you know what

2059
01:29:49,490 --> 01:29:47,760
I mean going up to 26 foot it's a

2060
01:29:51,649 --> 01:29:49,500
hundred year period when they did all of

2061
01:29:52,970 --> 01:29:51,659
that construction but that's not what is

2062
01:29:57,410 --> 01:29:52,980
important here

2063
01:30:02,510 --> 01:29:57,420
what is important is 500 miles south of

2064
01:30:06,110 --> 01:30:02,520
Issa and Sakara and ashore is Aswan and

2065
01:30:06,970 --> 01:30:06,120
inside of the Great Pyramid are 70 to

2066
01:30:14,270 --> 01:30:06,980
100

2067
01:30:16,850 --> 01:30:14,280
relieving Stones above in the relieving

2068
01:30:22,250 --> 01:30:16,860
Chambers above the the great uh the the

2069
01:30:25,910 --> 01:30:22,260
king's chamber those were 100 ton blocks

2070
01:30:29,390 --> 01:30:25,920
100 tons so you're telling me that 5 000

2071
01:30:31,189 --> 01:30:29,400
years ago they had the technology barely

2072
01:30:33,890 --> 01:30:31,199
on the cusp of the Bronze Age by the way

2073
01:30:36,410 --> 01:30:33,900
I mean if if the Metallurgy was just

2074
01:30:39,470 --> 01:30:36,420
like just started but that they

2075
01:30:42,649 --> 01:30:39,480
transported and carved those from a red

2076
01:30:47,870 --> 01:30:42,659
Granite Quarry in oswan and transported

2077
01:30:51,050 --> 01:30:47,880
those somehow to Giza and it doesn't fit

2078
01:30:52,250 --> 01:30:51,060
the timeline that they are giving us it

2079
01:30:54,290 --> 01:30:52,260
doesn't work

2080
01:30:56,570 --> 01:30:54,300
it doesn't make any sense now I don't

2081
01:30:59,030 --> 01:30:56,580
know what the answers are but I'm going

2082
01:31:02,270 --> 01:30:59,040
to continue to ask those questions just

2083
01:31:04,430 --> 01:31:02,280
like Graham has and you because what

2084
01:31:06,169 --> 01:31:04,440
they're telling us doesn't work they

2085
01:31:09,169 --> 01:31:06,179
dragged them through the Sahara desert

2086
01:31:12,229 --> 01:31:09,179
on sleds and they didn't even have any

2087
01:31:16,330 --> 01:31:12,239
trees by the way they didn't have any

2088
01:31:18,830 --> 01:31:16,340
trees the cedar came from Lebanon

2089
01:31:20,390 --> 01:31:18,840
I think now probably the dominant idea

2090
01:31:23,330 --> 01:31:20,400
that they were transported along the

2091
01:31:26,149 --> 01:31:23,340
Nile on barges but I think we could find

2092
01:31:28,790 --> 01:31:26,159
objections to that well okay so let's

2093
01:31:33,590 --> 01:31:28,800
stop right there I like that point

2094
01:31:35,629 --> 01:31:33,600
a hundred ton displacement barge 60

2095
01:31:38,330 --> 01:31:35,639
000 BC somebody give me evidence of that

2096
01:31:40,430 --> 01:31:38,340
because that's a big ass boat yeah and

2097
01:31:42,229 --> 01:31:40,440
and it seems to me again I haven't done

2098
01:31:44,689 --> 01:31:42,239
the in-depth studies but my first

2099
01:31:48,430 --> 01:31:44,699
question would be yeah what is the

2100
01:31:51,770 --> 01:31:48,440
displacement from a hundred ton uh Stone

2101
01:31:53,930 --> 01:31:51,780
and what is the depth of the Nile and

2102
01:31:56,930 --> 01:31:53,940
how large of a barge would you have to

2103
01:31:59,390 --> 01:31:56,940
have and you know what strikes me is

2104
01:32:00,770 --> 01:31:59,400
that my instincts tell me that yeah

2105
01:32:03,530 --> 01:32:00,780
you're you're gonna have a lot of

2106
01:32:07,370 --> 01:32:03,540
problems with that when you go when you

2107
01:32:10,490 --> 01:32:07,380
go to Aswan and you know you're you're a

2108
01:32:13,070 --> 01:32:10,500
rock star you deal with rocks right and

2109
01:32:15,530 --> 01:32:13,080
and I love red granite I do I love the

2110
01:32:18,290 --> 01:32:15,540
way it looks and it's density and the

2111
01:32:20,149 --> 01:32:18,300
way it feels and when it's carved and

2112
01:32:23,629 --> 01:32:20,159
smoothed there's nothing pretty you know

2113
01:32:26,390 --> 01:32:23,639
I love red granite but you go to ICE one

2114
01:32:30,290 --> 01:32:26,400
and you see that unfinished Obelisk

2115
01:32:32,870 --> 01:32:30,300
right which is 175 feet long right uh

2116
01:32:34,970 --> 01:32:32,880
estimates of 2500 tons

2117
01:32:37,189 --> 01:32:34,980
and it's sitting there in the Quarry

2118
01:32:39,110 --> 01:32:37,199
where all the other red granite obelisks

2119
01:32:42,290 --> 01:32:39,120
were carved in all the other blocks but

2120
01:32:44,350 --> 01:32:42,300
the point is somebody thought that they

2121
01:32:48,229 --> 01:32:44,360
could move that thing

2122
01:32:51,590 --> 01:32:48,239
you know it's in the ground now but they

2123
01:32:52,910 --> 01:32:51,600
had plans to get it up and out of that

2124
01:32:54,050 --> 01:32:52,920
pit

2125
01:32:57,430 --> 01:32:54,060
what

2126
01:32:59,990 --> 01:32:57,440
yes

2127
01:33:03,530 --> 01:33:00,000
in the hell are you gonna even get that

2128
01:33:06,110 --> 01:33:03,540
thing out of the pit you know you may be

2129
01:33:09,169 --> 01:33:06,120
able to float that thing I I don't know

2130
01:33:11,209 --> 01:33:09,179
what Merlin you know what magic you know

2131
01:33:13,850 --> 01:33:11,219
I don't know I don't know but they

2132
01:33:16,070 --> 01:33:13,860
weren't doing it with Papyrus ropes and

2133
01:33:19,729 --> 01:33:16,080
she could you know yeah and this gets us

2134
01:33:21,290 --> 01:33:19,739
back to again something that I have

2135
01:33:23,270 --> 01:33:21,300
questioned for years you know if you

2136
01:33:26,030 --> 01:33:23,280
look at ancient cultures

2137
01:33:27,649 --> 01:33:26,040
all over the world we find that same

2138
01:33:31,729 --> 01:33:27,659
kind of evidence of ancient cultures

2139
01:33:35,090 --> 01:33:31,739
moving very stupendous weights

2140
01:33:37,370 --> 01:33:35,100
mostly large stones but you know all

2141
01:33:40,129 --> 01:33:37,380
around we find them you know

2142
01:33:42,950 --> 01:33:40,139
in in Egypt we find them in megalithic

2143
01:33:46,189 --> 01:33:42,960
Europe we find them in South America

2144
01:33:47,930 --> 01:33:46,199
in in many other places we find that

2145
01:33:49,450 --> 01:33:47,940
people were you know all throughout the

2146
01:33:52,490 --> 01:33:49,460
Middle East people were able to

2147
01:33:54,590 --> 01:33:52,500
apparently move large stones with

2148
01:33:56,209 --> 01:33:54,600
impunity and here's the question you got

2149
01:33:58,370 --> 01:33:56,219
to ask Jimmy and I'm sure you've asked

2150
01:34:01,250 --> 01:33:58,380
this question if you've got a

2151
01:34:03,770 --> 01:34:01,260
civilization that's nomadic that it's

2152
01:34:07,010 --> 01:34:03,780
say hunter-gatherers or subsistence

2153
01:34:09,290 --> 01:34:07,020
Farmers or some combination thereof

2154
01:34:13,550 --> 01:34:09,300
where are they going to find the time

2155
01:34:15,950 --> 01:34:13,560
and the motive to Quarry 50 ton rocks

2156
01:34:18,290 --> 01:34:15,960
and move them and set them up in these

2157
01:34:20,149 --> 01:34:18,300
astronomically oriented symbolical

2158
01:34:22,430 --> 01:34:20,159
structures

2159
01:34:24,530 --> 01:34:22,440
you know if you're a subsistence farmer

2160
01:34:27,189 --> 01:34:24,540
and you want to know the seasons you

2161
01:34:29,689 --> 01:34:27,199
don't need to create a hinge of 50 ton

2162
01:34:32,270 --> 01:34:29,699
Boulders all you need is a damn stick in

2163
01:34:34,550 --> 01:34:32,280
the ground with a circle around it and

2164
01:34:36,229 --> 01:34:34,560
you can do a make a nice accurate

2165
01:34:38,870 --> 01:34:36,239
calendar to know

2166
01:34:40,430 --> 01:34:38,880
the seasons and and then all you have to

2167
01:34:42,770 --> 01:34:40,440
do also on top of that is just

2168
01:34:44,810 --> 01:34:42,780
particularly watch Stars you know when

2169
01:34:47,270 --> 01:34:44,820
do the Pleiades rise each year now you

2170
01:34:49,250 --> 01:34:47,280
know you know that that's going to be a

2171
01:34:51,350 --> 01:34:49,260
certain season that's going to be you

2172
01:34:54,290 --> 01:34:51,360
know the Autumn season and the Pleiades

2173
01:34:56,750 --> 01:34:54,300
are rising so you know you you know

2174
01:34:57,950 --> 01:34:56,760
you're living in a culture where you

2175
01:35:00,530 --> 01:34:57,960
know there are no electric lights

2176
01:35:02,510 --> 01:35:00,540
presumably or you have you know complete

2177
01:35:04,490 --> 01:35:02,520
darkness at night you can really see the

2178
01:35:07,910 --> 01:35:04,500
stars visit vividly and you're watching

2179
01:35:09,649 --> 01:35:07,920
those so you just by watching the stars

2180
01:35:12,709 --> 01:35:09,659
and simple things like putting a stick

2181
01:35:15,649 --> 01:35:12,719
in the ground you don't need these

2182
01:35:18,169 --> 01:35:15,659
gigantic Stones what is the motive there

2183
01:35:20,930 --> 01:35:18,179
and what is the purpose in in okay let's

2184
01:35:23,870 --> 01:35:20,940
suppose that one culture as an anomaly

2185
01:35:26,810 --> 01:35:23,880
decides hey we're going to just really

2186
01:35:28,669 --> 01:35:26,820
work our butts off and carve these huge

2187
01:35:32,990 --> 01:35:28,679
stones and set them up

2188
01:35:35,810 --> 01:35:33,000
as a as a proxy astronomical Observatory

2189
01:35:38,330 --> 01:35:35,820
okay maybe

2190
01:35:42,350 --> 01:35:38,340
but then all over the world multiple

2191
01:35:46,790 --> 01:35:42,360
cultures independently decide to do this

2192
01:35:49,070 --> 01:35:46,800
it just doesn't make sense no and then

2193
01:35:51,890 --> 01:35:49,080
there is

2194
01:35:54,950 --> 01:35:51,900
um the answer to me uh you know you said

2195
01:35:57,290 --> 01:35:54,960
Occam's razor earlier the answer to me

2196
01:36:00,229 --> 01:35:57,300
is probably the simplest one

2197
01:36:03,290 --> 01:36:00,239
there was just an advanced culture uh

2198
01:36:05,209 --> 01:36:03,300
before you know what we know or

2199
01:36:06,530 --> 01:36:05,219
understand maybe the man knows and

2200
01:36:08,030 --> 01:36:06,540
they're just not sharing that with us

2201
01:36:09,910 --> 01:36:08,040
but

2202
01:36:12,950 --> 01:36:09,920
that's the simplest answer

2203
01:36:16,010 --> 01:36:12,960
there was something there and somebody

2204
01:36:17,390 --> 01:36:16,020
was teaching how to do these things they

2205
01:36:19,310 --> 01:36:17,400
were teaching how to Quarry they were

2206
01:36:22,370 --> 01:36:19,320
teaching art they were teaching geometry

2207
01:36:25,669 --> 01:36:22,380
they were teaching astrology and

2208
01:36:27,649 --> 01:36:25,679
astronomy and they understood what the

2209
01:36:29,450 --> 01:36:27,659
constellations were they understand the

2210
01:36:31,310 --> 01:36:29,460
cycle of time they probably you know

2211
01:36:35,930 --> 01:36:31,320
they knew all of these basic maybe even

2212
01:36:39,110 --> 01:36:35,940
music and law right I mean you know you

2213
01:36:41,870 --> 01:36:39,120
know and and we're teaching this a long

2214
01:36:44,689 --> 01:36:41,880
time ago this isn't some part of modern

2215
01:36:47,030 --> 01:36:44,699
history that's the simplest answer and

2216
01:36:50,149 --> 01:36:47,040
that's the one we fight and that is the

2217
01:36:52,729 --> 01:36:50,159
one that to me seems to be the most

2218
01:36:55,310 --> 01:36:52,739
consistent with Occam's razor and for

2219
01:36:57,709 --> 01:36:55,320
one thing we have the evidence of these

2220
01:37:00,050 --> 01:36:57,719
cultures themselves

2221
01:37:01,970 --> 01:37:00,060
talking about you're I used to go hiking

2222
01:37:03,709 --> 01:37:01,980
here in North Georgia a lot there's a

2223
01:37:05,629 --> 01:37:03,719
there's a mountain up in North Georgia

2224
01:37:07,550 --> 01:37:05,639
called Blood Mountain which has a lot of

2225
01:37:10,010 --> 01:37:07,560
interesting stories associated with it

2226
01:37:12,890 --> 01:37:10,020
but it was a sacred Mountain to the

2227
01:37:15,470 --> 01:37:12,900
Cherokee who once inhabited this area

2228
01:37:16,970 --> 01:37:15,480
so there used to be I don't know it's

2229
01:37:19,250 --> 01:37:16,980
probably not there anymore we're going

2230
01:37:21,470 --> 01:37:19,260
back you know 20 30 years ago when I

2231
01:37:23,990 --> 01:37:21,480
used to hike up there at the trailhead

2232
01:37:27,050 --> 01:37:24,000
there was a sign talking about some of

2233
01:37:29,930 --> 01:37:27,060
the Cherokee history and lore and

2234
01:37:32,450 --> 01:37:29,940
legends and stuff and one of the things

2235
01:37:34,790 --> 01:37:32,460
that it mentioned was that this was a

2236
01:37:37,250 --> 01:37:34,800
meeting place between the ancestors of

2237
01:37:38,930 --> 01:37:37,260
the Cherokee and the nunohai

2238
01:37:42,470 --> 01:37:38,940
who are the nunai well it said the

2239
01:37:44,229 --> 01:37:42,480
nunahai were the people that could

2240
01:37:46,010 --> 01:37:44,239
travel anywhere

2241
01:37:49,250 --> 01:37:46,020
exact

2242
01:37:52,430 --> 01:37:49,260
definition explanation of the nunai in

2243
01:37:54,590 --> 01:37:52,440
the Cherokee definition the people who

2244
01:37:58,850 --> 01:37:54,600
could travel anywhere

2245
01:38:01,850 --> 01:37:58,860
right then you go and in Samaria you had

2246
01:38:04,790 --> 01:38:01,860
the Anunnaki with the same idea their

2247
01:38:09,290 --> 01:38:04,800
Outsiders who came in and showed them

2248
01:38:12,470 --> 01:38:09,300
how to do these things the same in Egypt

2249
01:38:14,270 --> 01:38:12,480
with the osirian and the the pantheon of

2250
01:38:17,450 --> 01:38:14,280
Egyptian gods I mean over and over again

2251
01:38:21,649 --> 01:38:17,460
you read Isis taught the science of

2252
01:38:24,129 --> 01:38:21,659
Agriculture we find it in South America

2253
01:38:27,590 --> 01:38:24,139
the viracocha in the in the the the

2254
01:38:29,629 --> 01:38:27,600
these Outsiders that came in and taught

2255
01:38:32,209 --> 01:38:29,639
them these skills

2256
01:38:35,689 --> 01:38:32,219
um we find it in the southwestern

2257
01:38:38,149 --> 01:38:35,699
deserts the stories about the Anasazi

2258
01:38:40,850 --> 01:38:38,159
um the tuat it's hard for me to

2259
01:38:43,550 --> 01:38:40,860
pronounce but the Tua dated on in the

2260
01:38:45,470 --> 01:38:43,560
Celtic traditions again all being

2261
01:38:48,410 --> 01:38:45,480
described as the same in the same way

2262
01:38:51,470 --> 01:38:48,420
they're Outsiders who had

2263
01:38:53,930 --> 01:38:51,480
this knowledge they came in and they

2264
01:38:57,290 --> 01:38:53,940
they worked with the indigenous peoples

2265
01:38:59,810 --> 01:38:57,300
now of course that idea is now what's

2266
01:39:01,070 --> 01:38:59,820
being proclaimed as racism and white

2267
01:39:03,530 --> 01:39:01,080
supremacy

2268
01:39:05,990 --> 01:39:03,540
but of course nowhere do we necessarily

2269
01:39:07,910 --> 01:39:06,000
have to say or

2270
01:39:09,709 --> 01:39:07,920
even theorized that they were

2271
01:39:11,870 --> 01:39:09,719
exclusively white or that they were

2272
01:39:14,030 --> 01:39:11,880
exclusively any color we don't know

2273
01:39:17,090 --> 01:39:14,040
they're they're not so specific on that

2274
01:39:19,550 --> 01:39:17,100
although some of the Central American

2275
01:39:22,610 --> 01:39:19,560
and South American traditions would

2276
01:39:25,669 --> 01:39:22,620
suggest that you know they had beards I

2277
01:39:27,590 --> 01:39:25,679
mean they had red hair but anybody that

2278
01:39:30,470 --> 01:39:27,600
would bring that up Randall

2279
01:39:33,110 --> 01:39:30,480
is racist well yeah that's what they're

2280
01:39:35,590 --> 01:39:33,120
saying This Is How They how they get

2281
01:39:38,570 --> 01:39:35,600
around this by by

2282
01:39:43,490 --> 01:39:38,580
calling names no and here's the thing

2283
01:39:45,709 --> 01:39:43,500
going back to the idea of of a a period

2284
01:39:48,050 --> 01:39:45,719
periodic catastrophes in the history of

2285
01:39:50,090 --> 01:39:48,060
the earth talking about how these

2286
01:39:53,750 --> 01:39:50,100
catastrophes have affected the history

2287
01:39:55,610 --> 01:39:53,760
of the Earth but then going extrapolated

2288
01:39:58,550 --> 01:39:55,620
from there and asking well how these

2289
01:40:01,490 --> 01:39:58,560
catastrophes affected human civilization

2290
01:40:04,610 --> 01:40:01,500
and I think that it is not implausible

2291
01:40:07,070 --> 01:40:04,620
to say that there could have been

2292
01:40:08,930 --> 01:40:07,080
an advanced Ice Age culture and I use

2293
01:40:11,330 --> 01:40:08,940
the term Advanced

2294
01:40:13,189 --> 01:40:11,340
um you know without necessarily making

2295
01:40:15,649 --> 01:40:13,199
any particular implication that they

2296
01:40:18,129 --> 01:40:15,659
were you know using fossil fuels and

2297
01:40:20,930 --> 01:40:18,139
driving SUVs and

2298
01:40:23,270 --> 01:40:20,940
yeah yeah cell phones right that I'm not

2299
01:40:27,470 --> 01:40:23,280
advanced in ways we may not even have

2300
01:40:29,330 --> 01:40:27,480
have begun to to guess yet but it is not

2301
01:40:31,790 --> 01:40:29,340
based on what we know now

2302
01:40:33,770 --> 01:40:31,800
there's no reason why we categorically

2303
01:40:35,330 --> 01:40:33,780
exclude any discussion of there being

2304
01:40:38,149 --> 01:40:35,340
the possibility of an advanced

2305
01:40:41,750 --> 01:40:38,159
civilization in the ice age or to use

2306
01:40:43,189 --> 01:40:41,760
the the archaic term an anti-diluvian

2307
01:40:45,410 --> 01:40:43,199
civilization

2308
01:40:46,970 --> 01:40:45,420
that may have asked had access to

2309
01:40:51,110 --> 01:40:46,980
scientific knowledge which we have

2310
01:40:54,350 --> 01:40:51,120
forgotten and that some Core Group

2311
01:40:56,570 --> 01:40:54,360
was able to survive the events that we

2312
01:40:59,030 --> 01:40:56,580
now call the younger driest and all of

2313
01:41:01,790 --> 01:40:59,040
these other things that happened in that

2314
01:41:04,430 --> 01:41:01,800
period between 11 and say 14 000 years

2315
01:41:07,010 --> 01:41:04,440
ago in that window of extreme Global

2316
01:41:09,290 --> 01:41:07,020
upheaval and in the aftermath of that

2317
01:41:11,330 --> 01:41:09,300
and Plato actually makes this kind of

2318
01:41:15,530 --> 01:41:11,340
clear in his dialogues differentiating

2319
01:41:18,050 --> 01:41:15,540
between the types of survivors right

2320
01:41:21,649 --> 01:41:18,060
if you have somebody that survives a

2321
01:41:25,910 --> 01:41:21,659
cataclysm because of foreknowledge and

2322
01:41:27,770 --> 01:41:25,920
preparedness and being ready for it as

2323
01:41:30,169 --> 01:41:27,780
opposed to somebody who survives just

2324
01:41:32,629 --> 01:41:30,179
because of the luck of the draw

2325
01:41:35,330 --> 01:41:32,639
you're going to see a natural division

2326
01:41:37,250 --> 01:41:35,340
of the human species there on the one

2327
01:41:38,870 --> 01:41:37,260
hand the people that survived by the

2328
01:41:40,970 --> 01:41:38,880
luck of the draw

2329
01:41:43,550 --> 01:41:40,980
are going to pretty much be and Plato

2330
01:41:45,890 --> 01:41:43,560
makes exactly this point they're going

2331
01:41:48,470 --> 01:41:45,900
to be wholly preoccupied with the

2332
01:41:50,270 --> 01:41:48,480
challenges of survival where's our next

2333
01:41:53,270 --> 01:41:50,280
meal going to come from how are we not

2334
01:41:55,910 --> 01:41:53,280
going to freeze to death in the winter

2335
01:41:58,310 --> 01:41:55,920
the cultural group that did make those

2336
01:42:02,209 --> 01:41:58,320
preparations whatever form that may have

2337
01:42:04,910 --> 01:42:02,219
taken the the Preppers of the day we are

2338
01:42:06,649 --> 01:42:04,920
going to preserve as much scientific

2339
01:42:09,109 --> 01:42:06,659
knowledge

2340
01:42:11,689 --> 01:42:09,119
um you know the technology the the the

2341
01:42:15,229 --> 01:42:11,699
the traditions and so on

2342
01:42:17,330 --> 01:42:15,239
in the aftermath after the things have

2343
01:42:19,850 --> 01:42:17,340
settled down the dust has settled

2344
01:42:21,830 --> 01:42:19,860
it would only be natural that these

2345
01:42:25,970 --> 01:42:21,840
people would go now out

2346
01:42:28,550 --> 01:42:25,980
to try to lift the burdens of survival

2347
01:42:31,070 --> 01:42:28,560
from their fellow human beings by

2348
01:42:35,270 --> 01:42:31,080
teaching them stuff that has been lost

2349
01:42:38,570 --> 01:42:35,280
that includes that includes

2350
01:42:40,550 --> 01:42:38,580
um some of the very basic things that

2351
01:42:42,350 --> 01:42:40,560
advanced us very quickly and I'm talking

2352
01:42:44,689 --> 01:42:42,360
about the domestication of wheat

2353
01:42:46,310 --> 01:42:44,699
agriculture

2354
01:42:49,250 --> 01:42:46,320
um animals

2355
01:42:52,189 --> 01:42:49,260
um it's at some point languages or

2356
01:42:55,070 --> 01:42:52,199
languages because at some point when

2357
01:42:57,350 --> 01:42:55,080
you're not somebody a culture it's

2358
01:42:59,090 --> 01:42:57,360
starting with an individual but a

2359
01:43:02,090 --> 01:42:59,100
culture

2360
01:43:04,850 --> 01:43:02,100
um had to make the decision of do we

2361
01:43:08,689 --> 01:43:04,860
worry about the beasts in the night

2362
01:43:11,090 --> 01:43:08,699
right do we worry about getting eaten or

2363
01:43:13,370 --> 01:43:11,100
are we going to apply ourselves in

2364
01:43:14,990 --> 01:43:13,380
another Direction and I'm telling you a

2365
01:43:16,490 --> 01:43:15,000
great example of that and I think that

2366
01:43:21,229 --> 01:43:16,500
there are thousands more around the

2367
01:43:24,950 --> 01:43:21,239
world is go back Lee tappy because to to

2368
01:43:26,930 --> 01:43:24,960
have gobekly Tepe to exist Randall these

2369
01:43:29,629 --> 01:43:26,940
are all the basics you had to have

2370
01:43:31,490 --> 01:43:29,639
Community you had to have leadership you

2371
01:43:33,890 --> 01:43:31,500
had to have engineering you had to have

2372
01:43:35,810 --> 01:43:33,900
teaching you had to have agriculture you

2373
01:43:38,030 --> 01:43:35,820
had to have food prep

2374
01:43:40,250 --> 01:43:38,040
um you had to have clothing and you had

2375
01:43:41,930 --> 01:43:40,260
to have the ability to make tools and

2376
01:43:45,229 --> 01:43:41,940
obviously some kind of Metallurgy

2377
01:43:48,709 --> 01:43:45,239
because they carved 3D relief in into

2378
01:43:53,750 --> 01:43:48,719
those stones so how did that happen at

2379
01:43:55,790 --> 01:43:53,760
10 000 BC somebody taught them they

2380
01:43:59,209 --> 01:43:55,800
didn't dream all of that up and that

2381
01:44:01,550 --> 01:43:59,219
culture as like day one no somebody

2382
01:44:03,770 --> 01:44:01,560
taught them all of that and there isn't

2383
01:44:04,310 --> 01:44:03,780
another way to look at it

2384
01:44:07,070 --> 01:44:04,320
um

2385
01:44:09,470 --> 01:44:07,080
and my guess

2386
01:44:12,229 --> 01:44:09,480
and it's it's still a guess but I think

2387
01:44:14,209 --> 01:44:12,239
it's a guess that's based upon

2388
01:44:16,250 --> 01:44:14,219
um you know valid thinking and

2389
01:44:19,790 --> 01:44:16,260
information and in looking for

2390
01:44:22,850 --> 01:44:19,800
explanations for some of the Unexplained

2391
01:44:25,750 --> 01:44:22,860
uh things from our past

2392
01:44:29,390 --> 01:44:25,760
I'm be I'm pretty much now convinced

2393
01:44:31,490 --> 01:44:29,400
that many of these ancient efforts

2394
01:44:35,149 --> 01:44:31,500
engineering efforts whether it's in

2395
01:44:38,990 --> 01:44:35,159
Egypt or whether we're talking you know

2396
01:44:42,950 --> 01:44:39,000
uh Neolithic or Paleolithic Britain or

2397
01:44:45,290 --> 01:44:42,960
South America in Peru and Bolivia and

2398
01:44:47,209 --> 01:44:45,300
you know China and we could even go into

2399
01:44:49,129 --> 01:44:47,219
North America

2400
01:44:51,350 --> 01:44:49,139
um I'll digress for a second and say

2401
01:44:52,790 --> 01:44:51,360
that about six weeks ago I did a little

2402
01:44:55,550 --> 01:44:52,800
tour

2403
01:44:57,169 --> 01:44:55,560
um and I went to a couple of sites

2404
01:44:59,390 --> 01:44:57,179
interesting sites one of the sites I

2405
01:45:01,669 --> 01:44:59,400
went to is two Mounds

2406
01:45:03,649 --> 01:45:01,679
um on the LSU campus in Baton Rouge

2407
01:45:05,930 --> 01:45:03,659
Louisiana went to also poverty point

2408
01:45:07,810 --> 01:45:05,940
which is in Northwestern

2409
01:45:10,310 --> 01:45:07,820
Northeastern Louisiana

2410
01:45:11,810 --> 01:45:10,320
my third time there very very

2411
01:45:14,629 --> 01:45:11,820
interesting site

2412
01:45:18,050 --> 01:45:14,639
yeah two mounts is is crazy it's right

2413
01:45:20,330 --> 01:45:18,060
there on LSU's campus yes you're aware

2414
01:45:22,910 --> 01:45:20,340
of those mounts I am I've checked it out

2415
01:45:25,189 --> 01:45:22,920
I've done some research yes okay so I

2416
01:45:27,649 --> 01:45:25,199
met with um

2417
01:45:28,850 --> 01:45:27,659
oh what's this Kevin teague's no let's

2418
01:45:32,450 --> 01:45:28,860
see no no no

2419
01:45:34,370 --> 01:45:32,460
um that's at the bone uh um l

2420
01:45:36,290 --> 01:45:34,380
oh God

2421
01:45:38,510 --> 01:45:36,300
I don't remember his name right off hand

2422
01:45:40,070 --> 01:45:38,520
it's been a couple of months now uh I've

2423
01:45:43,010 --> 01:45:40,080
got his card right here as a matter of

2424
01:45:45,649 --> 01:45:43,020
fact but anyways he was the lead he was

2425
01:45:48,890 --> 01:45:45,659
an archaeological professor at LSU

2426
01:45:52,669 --> 01:45:48,900
and he decided that he was going to do

2427
01:45:54,410 --> 01:45:52,679
an in-depth analysis of the age of those

2428
01:45:55,729 --> 01:45:54,420
Mounds that apparently had never been

2429
01:45:57,229 --> 01:45:55,739
accurately

2430
01:45:59,390 --> 01:45:57,239
uh

2431
01:46:00,830 --> 01:45:59,400
a dated dated so

2432
01:46:03,109 --> 01:46:00,840
anyhow

2433
01:46:05,090 --> 01:46:03,119
um the Mounds showed up two different

2434
01:46:07,669 --> 01:46:05,100
ages I think they were separated by

2435
01:46:10,609 --> 01:46:07,679
perhaps about 1500 years

2436
01:46:12,950 --> 01:46:10,619
but the older of the two and and we

2437
01:46:14,090 --> 01:46:12,960
spent about three hours with him went to

2438
01:46:16,310 --> 01:46:14,100
uh

2439
01:46:18,350 --> 01:46:16,320
we went out saw the Mounds he took us

2440
01:46:20,930 --> 01:46:18,360
into his laboratory showed me his dating

2441
01:46:22,070 --> 01:46:20,940
protocols and all of that

2442
01:46:23,570 --> 01:46:22,080
um like I said it's been about three

2443
01:46:25,490 --> 01:46:23,580
hours with him while he went through the

2444
01:46:29,629 --> 01:46:25,500
whole process with us but the older of

2445
01:46:32,149 --> 01:46:29,639
the two Mounds dated to 11 300 years old

2446
01:46:34,790 --> 01:46:32,159
and of course that created a huge

2447
01:46:37,129 --> 01:46:34,800
controversy and even his colleagues that

2448
01:46:39,470 --> 01:46:37,139
he thought were friends of his have

2449
01:46:40,910 --> 01:46:39,480
actually attacked him personally as a

2450
01:46:42,649 --> 01:46:40,920
result of that

2451
01:46:44,030 --> 01:46:42,659
um but he stuck to his guns and he

2452
01:46:46,850 --> 01:46:44,040
showed us went through the whole thing

2453
01:46:48,890 --> 01:46:46,860
and how the dating came up and he said

2454
01:46:50,750 --> 01:46:48,900
you know we I we went through the

2455
01:46:52,250 --> 01:46:50,760
protocols multiple times before I even

2456
01:46:52,850 --> 01:46:52,260
published

2457
01:46:55,129 --> 01:46:52,860
um

2458
01:46:56,990 --> 01:46:55,139
for for your listeners or whatever I'll

2459
01:46:59,629 --> 01:46:57,000
be posting

2460
01:47:00,890 --> 01:46:59,639
um links to his papers and things on my

2461
01:47:02,570 --> 01:47:00,900
website

2462
01:47:03,950 --> 01:47:02,580
along with a bunch of other interesting

2463
01:47:05,750 --> 01:47:03,960
things related to what we've been

2464
01:47:07,070 --> 01:47:05,760
talking about tonight but eleven

2465
01:47:10,070 --> 01:47:07,080
thousand three hundred that puts it just

2466
01:47:12,050 --> 01:47:10,080
within centuries of the younger driest

2467
01:47:14,209 --> 01:47:12,060
lower upper younger driest boundary go

2468
01:47:18,109 --> 01:47:14,219
back to Tempe the Final Phase of

2469
01:47:20,810 --> 01:47:18,119
building there and it at Poverty Point

2470
01:47:22,850 --> 01:47:20,820
what I learned now Graham Hancock went

2471
01:47:26,149 --> 01:47:22,860
to Poverty Point and that was in the the

2472
01:47:27,830 --> 01:47:26,159
Netflix series uh Mark I don't remember

2473
01:47:30,169 --> 01:47:27,840
Mark's last name he was the lead

2474
01:47:31,850 --> 01:47:30,179
archaeologist on the site we got Mark to

2475
01:47:33,649 --> 01:47:31,860
give us a tour

2476
01:47:36,050 --> 01:47:33,659
um and it was a great just like I said

2477
01:47:37,790 --> 01:47:36,060
was my third time there but this time

2478
01:47:38,510 --> 01:47:37,800
Marx

2479
01:47:40,370 --> 01:47:38,520
um

2480
01:47:42,050 --> 01:47:40,380
I didn't have the tours the other two

2481
01:47:44,810 --> 01:47:42,060
times I was just kind of on my own so

2482
01:47:47,270 --> 01:47:44,820
this was Mark disclose some new

2483
01:47:49,189 --> 01:47:47,280
information which had to do with the the

2484
01:47:50,990 --> 01:47:49,199
creation of Gobekli Tempe and one of the

2485
01:47:53,090 --> 01:47:51,000
things I didn't that I was unaware of

2486
01:47:55,669 --> 01:47:53,100
you know it sits on the edge of a bayou

2487
01:47:59,750 --> 01:47:55,679
and it's what like 43 Acres or something

2488
01:48:01,790 --> 01:47:59,760
the whole complex and before the

2489
01:48:04,010 --> 01:48:01,800
construction of this multi-ring

2490
01:48:06,109 --> 01:48:04,020
structure into three Mounds including

2491
01:48:09,530 --> 01:48:06,119
this one very large Mound that was

2492
01:48:12,169 --> 01:48:09,540
probably originally about 80 feet high

2493
01:48:13,970 --> 01:48:12,179
um the site was irregular and undulating

2494
01:48:16,910 --> 01:48:13,980
with sinkholes and things like that so

2495
01:48:19,310 --> 01:48:16,920
they had to level the site

2496
01:48:21,709 --> 01:48:19,320
in order to level that site they had to

2497
01:48:24,590 --> 01:48:21,719
bring in in places five and six feet of

2498
01:48:28,310 --> 01:48:24,600
of material covering

2499
01:48:32,330 --> 01:48:28,320
like 40 some plus acres this is an

2500
01:48:37,070 --> 01:48:32,340
enormous mass of volume of material it

2501
01:48:39,169 --> 01:48:37,080
has to be conveyed perfectly leveled out

2502
01:48:40,850 --> 01:48:39,179
and then the three Mounds the

2503
01:48:43,550 --> 01:48:40,860
interesting thing about the three mounds

2504
01:48:45,470 --> 01:48:43,560
and this is I've known this about uh

2505
01:48:48,530 --> 01:48:45,480
Mound architecture is that they're not

2506
01:48:51,229 --> 01:48:48,540
just heaps of Earth piled up they're

2507
01:48:54,290 --> 01:48:51,239
very carefully and intentionally layered

2508
01:48:57,050 --> 01:48:54,300
and oftentimes the layers are not the

2509
01:48:59,030 --> 01:48:57,060
same material they're different in some

2510
01:49:01,310 --> 01:48:59,040
cases the organic component may be

2511
01:49:04,850 --> 01:49:01,320
higher in others the mineral component

2512
01:49:06,770 --> 01:49:04,860
may be higher and the big Mound at um

2513
01:49:09,790 --> 01:49:06,780
Gobekli Tempi is the same way it's

2514
01:49:12,109 --> 01:49:09,800
layered there was a I believe he was a

2515
01:49:13,729 --> 01:49:12,119
paleobotanist on and I got to get a hold

2516
01:49:14,930 --> 01:49:13,739
of that paper I haven't read it since so

2517
01:49:17,930 --> 01:49:14,940
this has been a couple of months now

2518
01:49:19,310 --> 01:49:17,940
since since we we took the tour but what

2519
01:49:21,470 --> 01:49:19,320
Mark was telling me was this

2520
01:49:24,970 --> 01:49:21,480
paleobotanist if that's what in fact he

2521
01:49:28,370 --> 01:49:24,980
was they took samples through the mound

2522
01:49:29,930 --> 01:49:28,380
and was you know if you pile up you've

2523
01:49:32,330 --> 01:49:29,940
probably seen this if you go Excavating

2524
01:49:34,609 --> 01:49:32,340
you put a pile of dirt there

2525
01:49:37,070 --> 01:49:34,619
it's not you know a month later there's

2526
01:49:38,629 --> 01:49:37,080
going to be stuff growing on it isn't

2527
01:49:40,430 --> 01:49:38,639
there that's right there's going to be

2528
01:49:42,050 --> 01:49:40,440
you know by one year you're going to

2529
01:49:44,090 --> 01:49:42,060
have seedlings coming up there's going

2530
01:49:45,590 --> 01:49:44,100
to be trees growing there within three

2531
01:49:47,030 --> 01:49:45,600
or four or five years there'll be trees

2532
01:49:50,090 --> 01:49:47,040
growing there right

2533
01:49:52,910 --> 01:49:50,100
well if you look at if you put a pile of

2534
01:49:55,490 --> 01:49:52,920
Earth there Jimmy and then you put

2535
01:49:58,010 --> 01:49:55,500
another pile of Earth on top of it the

2536
01:50:00,169 --> 01:49:58,020
longer Hiatus there is between the

2537
01:50:02,450 --> 01:50:00,179
deposition of those two layers the more

2538
01:50:05,390 --> 01:50:02,460
organic material in the form of seeds

2539
01:50:07,490 --> 01:50:05,400
pollens actual plant remains and stuff

2540
01:50:09,169 --> 01:50:07,500
there's going to be sandwiched between

2541
01:50:11,930 --> 01:50:09,179
those layers right

2542
01:50:14,209 --> 01:50:11,940
okay what happens if you look at those

2543
01:50:18,410 --> 01:50:14,219
layers and there's nothing

2544
01:50:20,209 --> 01:50:18,420
there's no indication of a Hiatus now

2545
01:50:22,729 --> 01:50:20,219
there's enough there's some organic

2546
01:50:24,890 --> 01:50:22,739
material yes scattered pretty much

2547
01:50:26,870 --> 01:50:24,900
uniformly through

2548
01:50:30,410 --> 01:50:26,880
the 80 foot pile

2549
01:50:32,090 --> 01:50:30,420
but there's no concentration where the

2550
01:50:35,330 --> 01:50:32,100
separation the bedding planes of these

2551
01:50:37,010 --> 01:50:35,340
layers occurs as you would expect if

2552
01:50:39,410 --> 01:50:37,020
there had been a hiatus

2553
01:50:40,430 --> 01:50:39,420
so this paleobotanist was looking at

2554
01:50:43,850 --> 01:50:40,440
this

2555
01:50:46,850 --> 01:50:43,860
and going well the time span over which

2556
01:50:50,330 --> 01:50:46,860
this huge Mound was created had to have

2557
01:50:52,970 --> 01:50:50,340
been very very short

2558
01:50:54,290 --> 01:50:52,980
and in fact he estimated between one and

2559
01:50:59,870 --> 01:50:54,300
three months

2560
01:51:03,470 --> 01:50:59,880
really yes now if you create this huge

2561
01:51:06,109 --> 01:51:03,480
Earthen Mound over one to three months

2562
01:51:07,550 --> 01:51:06,119
according to the conventional scenarios

2563
01:51:10,490 --> 01:51:07,560
of

2564
01:51:13,870 --> 01:51:10,500
you know human labor transporting the

2565
01:51:18,109 --> 01:51:13,880
the Earth in wicker baskets or whatever

2566
01:51:20,270 --> 01:51:18,119
no will no horse presumably right you

2567
01:51:23,330 --> 01:51:20,280
have to presume you had tens of

2568
01:51:26,209 --> 01:51:23,340
thousands of people working

2569
01:51:28,430 --> 01:51:26,219
now if you've got tens of thousands of

2570
01:51:30,649 --> 01:51:28,440
people working

2571
01:51:32,810 --> 01:51:30,659
Round the Clock

2572
01:51:35,629 --> 01:51:32,820
somebody else has to be providing them

2573
01:51:39,109 --> 01:51:35,639
with food shelter clothing

2574
01:51:43,370 --> 01:51:39,119
now based upon population estimates of

2575
01:51:45,830 --> 01:51:43,380
population density 4 500 interestingly

2576
01:51:46,970 --> 01:51:45,840
Gobekli tappy dates to right around the

2577
01:51:49,070 --> 01:51:46,980
same time as

2578
01:51:50,750 --> 01:51:49,080
the Great Pyramid conventional dating

2579
01:51:53,270 --> 01:51:50,760
right

2580
01:51:56,750 --> 01:51:53,280
so if you go if you go and you imagine

2581
01:51:59,330 --> 01:51:56,760
well how what level of organization and

2582
01:52:02,390 --> 01:51:59,340
how many people are we talking about

2583
01:52:04,010 --> 01:52:02,400
there's a huge disconnect there it

2584
01:52:06,649 --> 01:52:04,020
doesn't make any sense and if you look

2585
01:52:10,430 --> 01:52:06,659
at the population numbers for that area

2586
01:52:12,229 --> 01:52:10,440
back then it was exactly zero all right

2587
01:52:16,010 --> 01:52:12,239
it's not there wasn't a million people

2588
01:52:19,310 --> 01:52:16,020
there and the same issues uh were along

2589
01:52:21,950 --> 01:52:19,320
the Nile River at 5000 BC conventional

2590
01:52:25,070 --> 01:52:21,960
numbers of the population of Egypt at

2591
01:52:28,189 --> 01:52:25,080
that time was 500 000 in the entire

2592
01:52:29,750 --> 01:52:28,199
country yeah so what that what that

2593
01:52:34,609 --> 01:52:29,760
tells you and it's the same problem with

2594
01:52:37,729 --> 01:52:34,619
Gobekli Tepe that every single male that

2595
01:52:40,910 --> 01:52:37,739
could walk in Egypt was building

2596
01:52:43,370 --> 01:52:40,920
pyramids nobody was farming right nobody

2597
01:52:44,930 --> 01:52:43,380
was nobody was building roads nobody was

2598
01:52:47,629 --> 01:52:44,940
building ships nobody was in the court

2599
01:52:51,109 --> 01:52:47,639
nobody was doing anything but building

2600
01:52:52,609 --> 01:52:51,119
there were no armies if you go with what

2601
01:52:54,470 --> 01:52:52,619
they suggest and it would be the same

2602
01:52:56,450 --> 01:52:54,480
thing and go back like happy the very

2603
01:52:59,930 --> 01:52:56,460
same thing and

2604
01:53:03,169 --> 01:52:59,940
they found 12 more tepies right around

2605
01:53:05,510 --> 01:53:03,179
Gobekli Tepe that throws it off we

2606
01:53:08,090 --> 01:53:05,520
didn't even talk about ER or irfa right

2607
01:53:10,790 --> 01:53:08,100
in the same situation going on there you

2608
01:53:13,370 --> 01:53:10,800
know friend you know Ben van kirkwick I

2609
01:53:14,990 --> 01:53:13,380
do Uncharted X yeah you know he's headed

2610
01:53:19,310 --> 01:53:15,000
over there soon

2611
01:53:22,870 --> 01:53:19,320
um I believe in March yeah I've got uh

2612
01:53:27,470 --> 01:53:22,880
I've got friends going over in August

2613
01:53:29,810 --> 01:53:27,480
and uh and I'm invited I would love to

2614
01:53:32,750 --> 01:53:29,820
go I would love to go I would love to go

2615
01:53:34,609 --> 01:53:32,760
well he's we've done a little bit of map

2616
01:53:36,950 --> 01:53:34,619
research and things and there you can

2617
01:53:40,970 --> 01:53:36,960
see very clearly on Google Earth

2618
01:53:43,129 --> 01:53:40,980
the huge quarries well oh oh I'm on a

2619
01:53:46,370 --> 01:53:43,139
dimension uh you didn't mention this uh

2620
01:53:49,070 --> 01:53:46,380
maybe you I think you kind of did uh

2621
01:53:52,310 --> 01:53:49,080
next to go Beckley Tepe there's evidence

2622
01:53:55,310 --> 01:53:52,320
of a canal and the transportation of

2623
01:53:57,830 --> 01:53:55,320
water to the site there's no natural

2624
01:53:59,810 --> 01:53:57,840
water sources there they had to bring

2625
01:54:02,030 --> 01:53:59,820
the water in

2626
01:54:05,149 --> 01:54:02,040
where does that technology come from at

2627
01:54:07,209 --> 01:54:05,159
10 000 BC yeah yeah that they could

2628
01:54:11,450 --> 01:54:07,219
build you know

2629
01:54:13,669 --> 01:54:11,460
substantial canals or aqueducts as the

2630
01:54:16,609 --> 01:54:13,679
case I think that's what they called

2631
01:54:18,470 --> 01:54:16,619
them was aqueducts yeah we so I mean

2632
01:54:21,950 --> 01:54:18,480
there's so many unanswered questions

2633
01:54:24,770 --> 01:54:21,960
about our own past on this planet that

2634
01:54:27,709 --> 01:54:24,780
you know it's time to just open the

2635
01:54:30,050 --> 01:54:27,719
gates and let her rip it's time to say

2636
01:54:31,970 --> 01:54:30,060
okay we've got to consider all

2637
01:54:33,770 --> 01:54:31,980
possibilities here in this business of

2638
01:54:37,310 --> 01:54:33,780
suppressing things because it doesn't

2639
01:54:39,830 --> 01:54:37,320
fit your narrowly defined Paradigm no we

2640
01:54:42,169 --> 01:54:39,840
don't have time for you anymore no we

2641
01:54:43,570 --> 01:54:42,179
know we know we know we don't no we

2642
01:54:46,850 --> 01:54:43,580
don't have time for these people anymore

2643
01:54:48,530 --> 01:54:46,860
let me ask you this Randall and uh and

2644
01:54:50,570 --> 01:54:48,540
thank you uh for taking the time to come

2645
01:54:53,270 --> 01:54:50,580
on the show tonight and we've got to do

2646
01:54:55,430 --> 01:54:53,280
this again here uh really soon

2647
01:54:58,070 --> 01:54:55,440
um and we will actually Randall and I've

2648
01:55:03,350 --> 01:54:58,080
got plans for 2023 and we'll announce

2649
01:55:06,590 --> 01:55:03,360
those but um uh would it surprise you if

2650
01:55:09,109 --> 01:55:06,600
the ice does start to melt in Antarctica

2651
01:55:11,270 --> 01:55:09,119
and then something is revealed that

2652
01:55:14,510 --> 01:55:11,280
they're you know and I'm not suggesting

2653
01:55:16,729 --> 01:55:14,520
anything too crazy but what if something

2654
01:55:20,810 --> 01:55:16,739
pops up down there that suggests a

2655
01:55:22,450 --> 01:55:20,820
civilization was there uh in real

2656
01:55:26,270 --> 01:55:22,460
ancient times

2657
01:55:29,510 --> 01:55:26,280
uh I certainly do think that's possible

2658
01:55:31,970 --> 01:55:29,520
um in fact let's see I have

2659
01:55:34,010 --> 01:55:31,980
uh yeah in the paper that just came out

2660
01:55:37,990 --> 01:55:34,020
again

2661
01:55:40,750 --> 01:55:38,000
this month maybe or maybe it's 2023.

2662
01:55:44,330 --> 01:55:40,760
it's here's the title of the paper

2663
01:55:47,530 --> 01:55:44,340
widespread Southern elephant seal

2664
01:55:52,609 --> 01:55:47,540
occupation of the Victoria land Coast

2665
01:55:55,970 --> 01:55:52,619
implies a warmer than present Ross sea

2666
01:55:57,770 --> 01:55:55,980
in the mid to late Holocene which puts

2667
01:55:59,629 --> 01:55:57,780
it you know somewhere between seven and

2668
01:56:00,530 --> 01:55:59,639
three thousand years ago the dates they

2669
01:56:04,209 --> 01:56:00,540
give here

2670
01:56:07,850 --> 01:56:04,219
our results suggest

2671
01:56:11,930 --> 01:56:07,860
greatly greatly reduced land fast

2672
01:56:14,930 --> 01:56:11,940
meaning ice on the land and likely pack

2673
01:56:17,629 --> 01:56:14,940
ice as well as potentially the incursion

2674
01:56:21,890 --> 01:56:17,639
of relatively warm uh modified

2675
01:56:24,530 --> 01:56:21,900
circumpolar deep water from 7100 to 500

2676
01:56:27,050 --> 01:56:24,540
years before present with the greatest

2677
01:56:29,649 --> 01:56:27,060
reduction in ice and warmest water

2678
01:56:33,189 --> 01:56:29,659
temperatures at approximately

2679
01:56:37,310 --> 01:56:33,199
5200 to 2 300 years ago

2680
01:56:39,590 --> 01:56:37,320
and then it goes on to say that um our

2681
01:56:42,770 --> 01:56:39,600
relative sea ice and ocean temperature

2682
01:56:46,729 --> 01:56:42,780
reconstruction also is consistent with

2683
01:56:49,729 --> 01:56:46,739
the hypothesized retreat of the West

2684
01:56:51,109 --> 01:56:49,739
Antarctica ice sheet Inland of its

2685
01:56:53,410 --> 01:56:51,119
present position

2686
01:56:59,270 --> 01:56:53,420
in the mid-holicine

2687
01:57:02,930 --> 01:56:59,280
of up to 1 000 kilometers

2688
01:57:06,350 --> 01:57:02,940
wait it's 100 miles Jimmy yes that means

2689
01:57:08,990 --> 01:57:06,360
if this paper is Right 600 miles of West

2690
01:57:11,149 --> 01:57:09,000
Antarctica was not covered in glaciers

2691
01:57:15,290 --> 01:57:11,159
five thousand years ago

2692
01:57:18,169 --> 01:57:15,300
and now would that match up with

2693
01:57:21,589 --> 01:57:18,179
um uh let's bring up Graham again you

2694
01:57:23,870 --> 01:57:21,599
know with some of his uh map evidence

2695
01:57:27,530 --> 01:57:23,880
that has been brought forward and I've

2696
01:57:30,649 --> 01:57:27,540
looked at this yes and yes again yeah

2697
01:57:33,109 --> 01:57:30,659
yeah yeah well let's just keep rolling

2698
01:57:36,109 --> 01:57:33,119
that rock uphill my friend we are

2699
01:57:37,729 --> 01:57:36,119
Randall great work Jimmy you're the best

2700
01:57:38,510 --> 01:57:37,739
I mentioned a couple of things coming up

2701
01:57:40,970 --> 01:57:38,520
quick

2702
01:57:45,550 --> 01:57:40,980
um April we're going to be doing a

2703
01:57:47,950 --> 01:57:45,560
a um a let's see if you go to my website

2704
01:57:50,649 --> 01:57:47,960
randallcarlton.com or go to howtube.com

2705
01:57:53,030 --> 01:57:50,659
or to

2706
01:57:55,250 --> 01:57:53,040
worldviewsmedia.com that's Robert Dakota

2707
01:57:57,229 --> 01:57:55,260
I don't know if you know Robert

2708
01:57:59,030 --> 01:57:57,239
um he's organizing a conference in

2709
01:58:02,990 --> 01:57:59,040
Arizona the focus is going to be the

2710
01:58:04,850 --> 01:58:03,000
Grail and the Grail as a symbol of lost

2711
01:58:06,109 --> 01:58:04,860
technology so it's going to be a great

2712
01:58:08,149 --> 01:58:06,119
weekend and there's going to be some

2713
01:58:11,510 --> 01:58:08,159
incredible guests there you know Scott

2714
01:58:12,229 --> 01:58:11,520
Walter is I'm guessing he'll be there

2715
01:58:16,669 --> 01:58:12,239
um

2716
01:58:19,729 --> 01:58:16,679
going to be making amazing presentations

2717
01:58:22,370 --> 01:58:19,739
and you can read all about it then in

2718
01:58:24,169 --> 01:58:22,380
June is going to be the cosmic Summit in

2719
01:58:26,510 --> 01:58:24,179
Asheville North Carolina being organized

2720
01:58:29,629 --> 01:58:26,520
by George Howard who is co-founder of

2721
01:58:33,229 --> 01:58:29,639
the Comet research group and the cosmic

2722
01:58:34,970 --> 01:58:33,239
Tusk website sold out I think but the

2723
01:58:37,189 --> 01:58:34,980
live streams are still available and of

2724
01:58:39,229 --> 01:58:37,199
course there's always late uh

2725
01:58:42,709 --> 01:58:39,239
cancellations so people could get in on

2726
01:58:44,689 --> 01:58:42,719
that we're doing a tour here in the East

2727
01:58:46,550 --> 01:58:44,699
the Cumberland Plateau tour during end

2728
01:58:49,490 --> 01:58:46,560
of March but at this point it's sold out

2729
01:58:51,109 --> 01:58:49,500
but if somebody is very interested you

2730
01:58:52,370 --> 01:58:51,119
know I would say check in because in

2731
01:58:54,530 --> 01:58:52,380
case there's some late minute

2732
01:58:56,089 --> 01:58:54,540
cancellations it's an amazing tour I

2733
01:58:57,350 --> 01:58:56,099
won't get into what it's we're going to

2734
01:58:59,089 --> 01:58:57,360
be exploring

2735
01:59:00,550 --> 01:58:59,099
but so we've got some school stuff

2736
01:59:02,810 --> 01:59:00,560
coming up

2737
01:59:05,629 --> 01:59:02,820
also and now I'll just make the

2738
01:59:08,390 --> 01:59:05,639
announcement now Randall is going to be

2739
01:59:11,030 --> 01:59:08,400
speaking at uh our conference Stairway

2740
01:59:14,510 --> 01:59:11,040
To the Stars at the Luxor Hotel in Las

2741
01:59:18,830 --> 01:59:14,520
Vegas and that's November 11th uh 10th

2742
01:59:20,510 --> 01:59:18,840
11th and 12th and uh I just did that in

2743
01:59:24,169 --> 01:59:20,520
advance we're going to announce all the

2744
01:59:25,550 --> 01:59:24,179
speakers later on this week but uh uh of

2745
01:59:27,830 --> 01:59:25,560
course you're going to be there Randall

2746
01:59:30,830 --> 01:59:27,840
and you were the one of the first people

2747
01:59:32,149 --> 01:59:30,840
that I called uh to to participate in

2748
01:59:34,609 --> 01:59:32,159
this and Scott Walter is going to be

2749
01:59:37,010 --> 01:59:34,619
there too as well yeah it's going to be

2750
01:59:39,410 --> 01:59:37,020
awesome so it's going to be a great year

2751
01:59:42,410 --> 01:59:39,420
we've got a lot of things cooking rental

2752
01:59:44,030 --> 01:59:42,420
you're the absolute very best fight man

2753
01:59:45,950 --> 01:59:44,040
some more all right

2754
01:59:49,310 --> 01:59:45,960
it's a good fight Jimmy and I'm glad

2755
01:59:52,729 --> 01:59:49,320
that uh we're allies in this fight

2756
01:59:56,990 --> 01:59:52,739
oh man we gotta do giant rock bro that

2757
01:59:59,930 --> 01:59:57,000
that right there we uh listen uh we we

2758
02:00:01,430 --> 01:59:59,940
said we were gonna do it this year we

2759
02:00:03,290 --> 02:00:01,440
can't mess around with that we've got to

2760
02:00:05,510 --> 02:00:03,300
figure out a way to get that done well

2761
02:00:07,970 --> 02:00:05,520
you know my my Explorations and

2762
02:00:10,010 --> 02:00:07,980
investigations of the Mojave Desert are

2763
02:00:13,430 --> 02:00:10,020
far from complete and I've only really

2764
02:00:14,990 --> 02:00:13,440
made one week and a half Excursion there

2765
02:00:16,609 --> 02:00:15,000
and there's a lot of follow-up that

2766
02:00:18,709 --> 02:00:16,619
needs to be done so I mean that

2767
02:00:19,790 --> 02:00:18,719
definitely even planning to get back out

2768
02:00:21,950 --> 02:00:19,800
there

2769
02:00:23,689 --> 02:00:21,960
um and for also the people are

2770
02:00:26,450 --> 02:00:23,699
interested in the the geological

2771
02:00:28,609 --> 02:00:26,460
catastrophe and we've got several tours

2772
02:00:30,649 --> 02:00:28,619
coming up the great flood lands

2773
02:00:33,410 --> 02:00:30,659
um in June

2774
02:00:35,570 --> 02:00:33,420
um Mind Block mind-boggling it'll blow

2775
02:00:38,149 --> 02:00:35,580
your mind to spend a week out and see

2776
02:00:40,189 --> 02:00:38,159
the scale of some of these phenomena

2777
02:00:42,169 --> 02:00:40,199
because that is the only way you can

2778
02:00:44,030 --> 02:00:42,179
really wrap your head around

2779
02:00:46,149 --> 02:00:44,040
when we start talking about global

2780
02:00:48,770 --> 02:00:46,159
catastrophes and you can see these the

2781
02:00:51,169 --> 02:00:48,780
deluges the and you begin to understand

2782
02:00:53,629 --> 02:00:51,179
what we mean by the deluvial

2783
02:00:56,450 --> 02:00:53,639
post-deluvial and anti-diluvial worlds

2784
02:00:59,030 --> 02:00:56,460
so that's coming up June

2785
02:01:01,790 --> 02:00:59,040
um is it going to be the next one

2786
02:01:04,250 --> 02:01:01,800
the beard of knowledge Randall Carlson

2787
02:01:05,629 --> 02:01:04,260
thank you so much my friend enjoy the

2788
02:01:07,250 --> 02:01:05,639
rest of your night I'll give you a call

2789
02:01:08,810 --> 02:01:07,260
tomorrow thank you can I ask one quick

2790
02:01:10,250 --> 02:01:08,820
last question you could do whatever you

2791
02:01:12,530 --> 02:01:10,260
want it's your show

2792
02:01:14,390 --> 02:01:12,540
if I shave my beard off does that mean

2793
02:01:18,430 --> 02:01:14,400
that I lose all my knowledge you're

2794
02:01:21,890 --> 02:01:18,440
going to be dumb oh God I guess okay

2795
02:01:25,790 --> 02:01:23,990
Jimmy I loved it man I always enjoy

2796
02:01:28,250 --> 02:01:25,800
getting with you my friend send me the

2797
02:01:29,149 --> 02:01:28,260
beard I'll glue it on and I'll become

2798
02:01:32,089 --> 02:01:29,159
smart

2799
02:01:34,070 --> 02:01:32,099
wow maybe that there's a possibility you

2800
02:01:35,750 --> 02:01:34,080
never know it's worth it

2801
02:01:37,370 --> 02:01:35,760
I'll talk to you Randall have a great

2802
02:01:38,689 --> 02:01:37,380
night man thank you for everything my

2803
02:01:41,629 --> 02:01:38,699
friend

2804
02:01:44,870 --> 02:01:41,639
Randall Carlson randallcarlson.com the

2805
02:01:47,570 --> 02:01:44,880
links are below and we've got them over

2806
02:01:50,629 --> 02:01:47,580
on social media and over on our website

2807
02:01:52,310 --> 02:01:50,639
too as well and that brings us to the

2808
02:01:53,570 --> 02:01:52,320
end of this fantastic conversation I

2809
02:01:56,689 --> 02:01:53,580
want to thank Randall for everything

2810
02:01:59,209 --> 02:01:56,699
what I just did nothing but get my learn

2811
02:02:01,750 --> 02:01:59,219
on tonight I want everybody to have a

2812
02:02:03,890 --> 02:02:01,760
great safe and fun and amazing weekend

2813
02:02:06,350 --> 02:02:03,900
uh I'm gonna let everybody know I'm

2814
02:02:08,870 --> 02:02:06,360
gonna get you jealous tomorrow night I'm

2815
02:02:11,330 --> 02:02:08,880
gonna go see the Eagles

2816
02:02:14,870 --> 02:02:11,340
that's what I'm doing tomorrow Saturday

2817
02:02:17,030 --> 02:02:14,880
is alien con yeah so I got a busy

2818
02:02:18,649 --> 02:02:17,040
weekend in front of us uh everybody have

2819
02:02:20,030 --> 02:02:18,659
a great safe fun time I'll see you on

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02:02:21,530 --> 02:02:20,040
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02:02:31,490 --> 02:02:29,639
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02:02:42,350 --> 02:02:40,500
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2833
02:02:49,850 --> 02:02:47,520
church I'll see everybody on Monday

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02:02:53,870 --> 02:02:49,860
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